Hello Syafril Hermansyah, On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 11:20:18 +0700 GMT your local time, which was Monday, June 19, 2000, 11:20:18 AM (GMT+0700) my local time, Syafril Hermansyah wrote: > Hello tracer, t>> On the other hand hitting the bystanders using often misused / abused t>> servers is a fairly practical way to force the servers involved to t>> improve their mail delivery system. t>> One may not like it as a victim but if it helps cutting down spam and t>> isolating servers used for it as they will loose legal users, it may t>> in the long run have a positiv effect. > Ah yes you right, I forgot about the other useful side of this ORBS/RBL > anti spam. I think for Public ListServer we don't need it much, but for > corporate MailServer it will be help a much, even not 100% effective > such case of "valid domain but not valid user". > I saw several spammers nowadays using this trick, for instance he use > e-mail address [EMAIL PROTECTED] , the mailbox itself not valid, but > domain is valid, and he/she is sending using domain.com's MTA ( in fact > not Open Relay) using Dial Up Account. Any idea how to avoid this kind > of spammers ? As far as I am concerned any server should enforce password / logon to its smtp and make it a combo smtp / pop mailsend operation. That should in all likelyhood keep spammers away. Obviously it cannot cope with remote dialing in and sending via a server far away like those run by www.myrealbox.com. On the other hands as ISP its easy as if the spammer is local you have his phonenumber he used to dialin so even if the name is fake, there shouldnt be any problem catching him. We caught ourselves an internet cafe here which had decided to cut costs and use other peoples accounts to dial in. Every time his phone gets logged....He was stupid enough to try it on a friends account so we know who it is and where. Biggest problem will be to have the Thais admit they got one of those nonexisting internet problems and take action. Anyway, if they donot, the guy will likely not enjoy his stays on the internet... To run an internet cafe he needs to be on line and he has all those visitors with access to his systems(g). -- Best regards, tracer Using theBAT 1.44 mail to : [EMAIL PROTECTED] using FireTalk: 321338 LOCAL phone: 271194 -- -------------------------------------------------------------- View the TBBETA archive at http://tbbeta.thebat.dutaint.com To send a message to the list moderation team double-click HERE: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To Unsubscribe from TBBETA, double-click HERE: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --------------------------------------------------------------

