Viktor, > Hello Gleason,
> Monday, December 17, 2018, 3:06:01 PM, you wrote: > Viktor, >> Hello Gleason, >> Sunday, December 16, 2018, 3:27:53 PM, you wrote: >>>> The splashscreen is nice, honestly - but it doubled the EXE size? Hmm! >>> It doesn't seem to matter, unless you are short of ram. The days of super >>> expensive memory are gone. >> This is the unfortunate thinking of today. Just multiply that with >> 20 programs and you'll see where it gets you in terms of # uselessly wasted >> RAM. >> Similar with Android these days: every meaningless "App" eats its >> 60 MB of memory whether it's doing anything or not, totalling to 100% memory >> usage >> and laggy phone. Just because "memory is cheap" and other lazy programmer >> thinking. > I wouldn't accuse Maxim of being lazy. In my case, with TB > running, I am using 3.68 gb of ram out of 12. With TB closedMe > neither. But then it's not him being quoted as "It doesn't seem to > matter". It does, on larger scale, anyway. True, but since I had nothing to do with the size of the The Bat executable, I'm not lazy either. > I am using 3.5. I guess I'm not feeling overly impacted. 12 gb of > ram is not especially high end these days. This may be the source > of the mistake. Your computer doesn't seem to be > doing much. Yes, I am replying from MS Server 2016 which seems to take about half of what Win 10 needs. > And TheBat! is not the only program people run. > In my case, out of my 16GB, Firefox feels free to eat anywhere all the way > to 8, You must have a lot of open tabs with constant server interaction (for ads, etc). I use Opera whenever possible, and it usually is these days. Opera gets hoggish sometimes too, but if I close it, and reopen, it returns to restrained behavior. > Thunderbird takes several gigs too, on bad days And it doesn't even have embedded large graphics. Wasteful. The Bat does not take "several" even now. >, Eclipse is no fly > weight either. > It's so easy to fill all the available memory with one program > "because it looked OK on my machine". IDE's and graphics programs take a lot, but I bet you can find room for modest little The Bat. > And, once again, thanks Maxim for the high quality tastefully done > images. I bet it took some effort to acquire them.I'm sure. And I'm > sure there are better places for >32MB of temporary graphics. >> The days of chasing every kilobyte are gone, but just doubling the >> program between minor versions sound strange to me too. > Unless you understand how that happened. In this case, the images > will be gone when this year's Christmas version is retired.If the > Christmas graphics is what inflated the EXE to twice its size. I, to > be honest, didn't even expect that. >> BTW., this is a plaintext list, if nothing else then by custom. >> Would you mind replying to plaintext mails in in plaintext? Yeah, another >> "old times" >> legacy. But it also eases quoting - or much more doesn't kill it for TheBat! >> like HTML mails do. > Sure, I was too lazy to think about it. I remember the years of > various email client users railing against the > useless creeping incursion of html into email. Pegasus, Becky, > many others. It seems that Sylpheed is the last holdout > of any significance. Change marches on, your perception of whether > it is progress or not will vary.You can see the results for > yourself: Try to reply to your own (or, rewriten in original HTML > reply form to serve as an example, this very) mail in TheBat! How > does the qouting look? How are the levels colored, how well will the footer > be handled? Well, enough, I think. Better than Thunderbird for sure, for one reason Thunderbird has its own proprietary quoting mechanism. In any case, people send me pics illustrating problems they see, and I find it useful to include those pics in my reply. That helps because users often don't know what I need to see, in fact I don't either until I see it. In my case, I don't need perfection, but being able to do that much is a great help. The Bat's build in html is not sufficient though, I still need to use MS's built in html. > -- > Best regards, > Viktor Kabelac mailto:[email protected] > -- Gleason ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 8.5.8.5 | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

