Viktor,

> Hello Gleason,

> Monday, December 17, 2018, 3:06:01 PM, you wrote:


> Viktor,

>> Hello Gleason,

>> Sunday, December 16, 2018, 3:27:53 PM, you wrote:
>>>> The splashscreen is nice, honestly - but it doubled the EXE size? Hmm!
>>> It doesn't seem to matter, unless you are short of ram.  The days of super 
>>> expensive memory are gone.
>> This is the unfortunate thinking of today. Just multiply that with
>> 20 programs and you'll see where it gets you in terms of # uselessly wasted 
>> RAM.
>> Similar with Android these days: every meaningless "App" eats its
>> 60 MB of memory whether it's doing anything or not, totalling to 100% memory 
>> usage
>> and laggy phone. Just because "memory is cheap" and other lazy programmer 
>> thinking.

> I wouldn't accuse Maxim of being lazy.  In my case, with TB
> running, I am using 3.68 gb of ram out of 12.  With TB closedMe
> neither. But then it's not him being quoted as "It doesn't seem to
> matter". It does, on larger scale, anyway.

True,   but  since I had nothing to do with the size of the The Bat executable,
I'm not lazy either.

> I am using 3.5.  I guess I'm not feeling overly impacted.  12 gb of
> ram is not especially high end these days.  This may be the source
> of the mistake. Your computer doesn't seem to be
> doing much.

Yes,  I am replying from MS Server 2016 which seems to take about half
of what Win 10 needs.

> And TheBat! is not the only program people run.
> In my case, out of my 16GB, Firefox feels free to eat anywhere all the way
> to 8,

You must have a lot of open tabs with constant server interaction (for
ads,  etc).   I use Opera whenever possible, and it usually is these
days.   Opera gets hoggish sometimes  too, but  if I close it, and
reopen, it returns to restrained behavior.

>  Thunderbird takes several gigs too, on bad days

And  it doesn't even have embedded large graphics.  Wasteful.  The Bat does
not take "several" even now.

>, Eclipse is no fly
> weight either.
> It's so easy to fill all the available memory with one program
> "because it looked OK on my machine".

IDE's and graphics programs take a lot, but I bet you can find room
for modest little The Bat.

> And, once again, thanks Maxim for the high quality tastefully done
> images.  I bet it took some effort to acquire them.I'm sure. And I'm
> sure there are better places for >32MB of temporary graphics.

>> The days of chasing every kilobyte are gone, but just doubling the
>> program between minor versions sound strange to me too.

> Unless you understand how that happened.  In this case, the images
> will be gone when this year's Christmas version is retired.If the
> Christmas graphics is what inflated the EXE to twice its size. I, to
> be honest, didn't even expect that.

>> BTW., this is a plaintext list, if nothing else then by custom.
>> Would you mind replying to plaintext mails in in plaintext? Yeah, another 
>> "old times"
>> legacy. But it also eases quoting - or much more doesn't kill it for TheBat! 
>> like HTML mails do.

> Sure, I was too lazy to think about it.  I remember the years of
> various email client users railing against the
> useless creeping incursion of html into email.  Pegasus, Becky,
> many others.  It seems that Sylpheed is the last holdout
> of any significance.  Change marches on, your perception of whether
> it is progress or not will vary.You can see the results for
> yourself: Try to reply to your own (or, rewriten in original HTML
> reply form to serve as an example, this very) mail in TheBat! How
> does the qouting look? How are the levels colored, how well will the footer 
> be handled?

Well, enough, I think.    Better than Thunderbird for sure, for one
reason Thunderbird has its own proprietary quoting mechanism.  In any
case, people send me pics illustrating problems they see, and I find
it useful to include those pics in my reply.  That helps because
users often don't know what I need to see, in fact I don't either
until I see it.

In my case, I don't need perfection, but being able to do that much is
a great help.  The Bat's build in html is not sufficient though, I
still need to use MS's built in html.

> --
> Best regards,
>  Viktor Kabelac                            mailto:[email protected]
>  


-- 

Gleason


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