Hello Martin! On Sunday, August 17, 2003 at 1:37:06 PM you wrote:
> Ha ha - can't you tell me the truth As written in another message: I can't as I don't know it. > For example? I don't know (but see my other message). > Yes of course - you can always find things which are worse. But is > should be an argument for this policy? I hope not. I didn't use it as an argument "for". > Aha - so I was not wrong that this "policy" will kill public beta > testing an let only private testers go on. Without an detailed > explanation? I can see that this conclusion is viable, but it is not the only one. And it wasn't what I've alluded to. > But this is not marketing - this is surprise tactics. You mix categories here, marketing "can" include surprise. To answer your implicit question (as far as I can): In all the years I now use TB and are on these lists I've never seen a move by RITLabs that was unreasonable or unsensible towards the user base. So, until RITLabs itself clears up the matter - and we are back to considering facts instead of prejudices - my word is: In dubio pro reo! > A very strange way and policy. To give at first public betas and at > the end to "reward" the help of all these users you let them pay again? > No please! What is a software development without the bug feedback > from users? Neither can I follow your argument, nor your wording. the following is based upon my interpretation of your statement, so I may be wrong. Other than you I think RITLabs (and any other company) has a right to earn money - with its products. Considering how long we have been using TB, and how much effort went into it to improve it, a charge for v2 is reasonable. As long as we don't know how much they will charge I cannot see what we are discussing. BTW, it just dawns on me that you may think I got mine for free. Is this what's bugging you? Or is it just that you don't want to pay for v2? I still seem to miss the point totally. And I refrain from any discussion about a user's presumed right to a product, any "why you and not me" argument and such. Your ironic use of the word "reward" does imply the new registration is a punishment; you can't mean that serious. > Yes but you can use this bug-fixed version only with a new key. I don't see v2 as a pure bug-fix. > No - these are not the questions here. What are they then? > If RITLabs would have answers to such questions they should ask them > clear and fair - this new key "feature" in a beta cycle is not fair. It all started with a small, humorous use of the word "feature" by me, and, ohm how far did it bring us. "Fair"? Please, go back to the message I have referred you back to more than once, then look up Stefan's answer to it. Perhaps that will help to put this into perspective. To sum up this specific thread, we both are just speculating, me perhaps on a more optimistic note, you slightly more pessimistic. Whatever the facts, we don't know them yet. Whatever the outcome, I still am convinced it will be reasonable. BTW, do you use IMAP or POP3? -- Dierk Haasis The Bat 2.0 Beta/2 on Windows XP 5.1 2600Service Pack 1 You can fool all the people some of the time, some of the people all the time, but never all the people all the time. (Abraham Lincoln) ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 2.0b2 | "Using TBBETA" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html
