On Thursday, August 12, 2004 it appears that Dierk Haasis 
wrote the following in regards to "2.13 beta 4: New filtering system does partial 
filterind":

>>   Yeah, really. I don't get it. Have many others resorted to
>>   re-writing all their filters?

>> It's ridiculous for RIT Labs to expect that -- beta or no beta.

DH> No. Neither did they "expect" us (at least I hope) nor is it too
DH> far-fetched for beta testing. Now, *this* beta cycle is specifically
DH> to test out the new filter system. If anybody expects a complete and
DH> perfect system, I'd find that a bit delusional.

Hello Dierk. I'm too old to be delusional about a piece of
software -- politics, honesty, wars, yes -- but not software.

I can't speak for everyone but I, for one, did not expect a
complete & perfect system. If so, it would not be a beta, right?

I've been around for a couple of TB! years, thru a # of beta
cycles -- some better than others. That's not the issue for me
otherwise I wouldn't bother d/l betas. I don't care if I'm the
first on my block with the latest version.

What bothers me here is that the filter conversion seems to be
working sometimes under certain conditions for some but not for
others & there hasn't been much consolidation of information for
what works & what doesn't which leaves me with the feeling that
it's a true mish mash & no one has been able to get their arms
around it.

It's like a patchwork quilt, not much rhyme or reason. I could
certainly be wrong & it's genuinely possible I just can't see the
forest for the trees &, if that's the case, I hope you'll educate
me in that regard.

I realize there are a lot of variables & exponential combinations
but I followed the directions, i.e.

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New filtering system is one of the major goals of current beta
cycle. It is not fully implemented yet, but everybody risky enough
can toggle it on in account settings. It should automatically
convert current filters to new system. Known issues: 1. Before
starting program kill all .srb files (new filtering options) which
can be created by earlier versions. It should be enough to get
converted most of your filters 2. There is a problem with KNOWN
filter - it converts invalidly now 3. Only basic action work now,
but situation will change 4. It can work wrong on IMAP (yet)

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and even so, I can find no pattern nor have I read anything about
a pattern nor is anyone keeping track of the problems to my
knowledge to see if patterns develop.... so.... this is a useless
exercise from my pov as I cannot use the new filtering system nor
can I really help debug it in any meaningful way & still
maintain some semblance of a daily work flow.

The only pattern I've developed is that once I switch out of the
debug mode, *everything* works fine.

-- 
Jan Rifkinson
Ridgefield CT USA
TB! v2.13 "Lucky" Beta/4 W2K v5.0 Service Pack 4









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