Hello all, Wednesday, April 20, 2005, Boris Anders wrote: > Bugtraq is one big big chaos, with hundreds unreproduceable, already > fixed, never seen again bugreports. I just can't believe somebody has > any orientation in it.
and You have orientation in TBBETA when approximately 150 messages are received daily? Do You really expect, developers will check that Peter's mail and will watch all mids with all replies to know, how it is reproducable and how many people confirmed it with which OS etc? >> And all developers with official support is working with it. > Oh, I really hope this is not true. All developers work with it - and it > has 329 new reports? Correct me when I'm wrong, but new means "never > seen/tested by developer" as I told, TBBETA is for discussing and I expect, if will be bug revealed and confirmed by many users, it will be added into BT with complete description how to reproduce it. "New" means, report was not confirmed and assigned to developer, report can be new and not tested yet, report can be old and not tested by nobody. >> Max wanted it, because Ritlabs can read all hundred messages sent >> daily to TBBETA, but will not have time to solve them then. > Well, my answer might go more to Ritlabs/Max then to you: > Many bug reports on TBBeta are already in Peters list. So if Ritlabs > would read this mail, lot of bugs could be fixed and much messages could be > saved and that with reading only ONE mail (not 30 bug reports in BT + > changing the status). Peter's list have not many of them and had links to BT too. > Furthermore if Ritlabs would answer to bugreports on TBBeta, much > messages and time could be safed - as there would be no need for others > to try to confirm a already fixed bug. so You expect, they will read all messages? Approximately 700 messages weekly? I hope not, who will develop The Bat!? > I had hoped, situation will change with the great BugList of Peter - but > I might be wrong. Many testers in list didn't read this single mail but just > report there problem (again) on TBBeta. From these users who read the > list, only few answered - so the list doesn't seem to be accepted yet. > And in this difficult situation, all bugs are duplicated into BT, making > the chaos of BT greater without any advantage. You can help to have BT better, for example You can close resolved bugreports, confirm new or ask users about more details. > Peter, what do you think? Will you continue the list, or just give up, > seeing the situation is lost? (PM?) I have did many lists in past, but long lists are not comfortable and not all developers read TBBETA. Each developer works on part of program, but list in mail includes bugs for whole program and is harded to find duplicates. -- Bye Marek Mikus Czech support of The Bat! http://www.thebat.cz Using the best The Bat! 3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1 Build 2600 Service Pack 1 Notebook Acer, Pentium4-M 2.2 GHz, 512 MB RAM, ADSL line ________________________________________________________ Current beta is 3.0.9.17 Return | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
