Hello Michael. --On 02 June 2005 18:44 +0200 you wrote about Re: Reflections on IMAP & POP3:
> Eeeerrrhhh ... You forget the huge _silent_ majority, don't you? > > In your case I belong to that group, notwithstanding that you have my > sympathy - I am _really_ sorry for you! I can only count people who I know are there. The silent majority are just that, silent, therefore I don't know your there but I thank you for your support. > In your case I belong to that group, notwithstanding that you have my > sympathy - I am _really_ sorry for you! Don't be sorry for me, sympathetic to my cause yes but not sorry. Beginning to sound like a terrorist organisation now :) > I never got filters to work Took me a week to suss them out but now I have and once you get your head around triggers they're pretty simple. > but has mulberry a possibility to manual trigger a filter to copy (!) a > message to a local folder? Yes it does and I started doing that and threading was fine. But, each time I tried a new build of TB I couldn't access the mail in these local folders. TB filtered into IMAP folders, Mulberry filtered into local folders so my mail was all over the place. Problem is, filtering into local folders is defeating the object of IMAP, I may as well give up IMAP and go back to POP which I don't want to do. > I see two long range possibilities in either mulberry rewrites the > incorrect reference header when sending a message or TB! silently deal > with incorrect headers. It has *nothing* to do with Mulberry or The Bat! It's a server side problem which is why it don't happen when I filter into local folders. And I have been in contact with my IMAP provider and as of the last correspondence I had they was trying to fix it. > I'm not really sure that this fix is RIT's duty Now you've lost me? The problem I have doesn't happen with Mulberry, it didn't happen with Firefox when I tried that, it only happens with The Bat! The Bat! is the one that is leaving deleted messages on the server when it should be completely expunging them. Who if anyone do you suggest I contact if not RIT to fix this problem with The Bat? > It's the best up to now - and incorrect headers are (in fact) a > problem of the server, not of the client). You have the completely wrong end of the stick. The problems that are occurring with other peoples threading IS NOT the main problem, it's not my problem, it's a side effect. My problem is with TB! TB! does not reliably delete flagged messages from my server. It may do if it feels like it, it might forget about it and do it next time I run it, it might do it when I run it tomorrow. I returned home from 4 days camping and the first time I run TB I could still read messages I deleted last week. It should do it the instant I tell it to IE: Now, as soon as I switch folders just like Firefox and Mulberry do, that is the problem, not threading! How would it be if TB! sent new messages with the same degree of reliability? You write a message now and TB! sends it in an hour, a day or a weeks time, not too sure how many people would put up with that? > I would never hope the would do something like that!!! As of yet I've not heard a word from any of the moderators, I know by their silence that they understand my predicament. I've been on this list long enough for them to know I'm not doing this for fun. I'm pretty sure they understand my frustration and my desire to get back to using TB! full time with confidence. Mulberry is great, it works flawlessly, I have no problems with it whatsoever, it's the epitome of reliability ... But it ain't The Bat and it's The Bat I really love and want to use. -- Tony. M.
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