Hi Bill, On 7/6/2005 12:19 AM -0500, you wrote: > First off, I've simplified my interface a bit. All I have to do is > press Win-P and, thanks to PowerPro, I am in Gvim - configured for > email - with the body of my email ready to edit. When I am done > editing, pressing Alt-q saves my edit buffer to the clipboard and > closes Gvim. To finish off, a Ctrl-V in MicroEd replaces what was > there with my edited text. This is almost as good as built-in > support. I suppose Ritlabs figured that anyone using a programmer's > editor would figure out a way to integrate it - I'm fairly happy with > this solution.
While using GVim, this was my exact setup! :) Short of the actual keystroke assignments for the PowerPro macros. :) > Allie, I have no desire to replace MicroEd - only to supplement it. > Except for its inability to handle double space sentence separation, > and thus reformat, it is very good at what it does. Very good yes. A read editor for it's purpose. :) > I'm assuming you mean for email. But even for that I want > more control. For example: > > - inserting a text file > > - inserting the output from an external program (including > your favorite command processor commands) Rather exceptional requirements that aren't, let's face it, not common requirements. For you perhaps. :) > - turning on or off "free caret editing" - that's virtual > editing in Gvim Why would you wish to switch it off? ;) > - Operate on columns, inserting and deleting or formatting > text into columns MicroEd's column select mode doesn't help there? >> - it has an incredibly steep learning curve. However, if >> surmounted, it's knowledge well worth the effort if you do a >> lot of text editing. > > Part of the beauty of MicroEd, IMHO, is the very shallow > learning curve to perform quite a bit. I realized I had miscommunicated. I actually meant exactly this about MicroEd, while GVim has a very steep learning curve. It's that learning curve that made me dump it in the end. Too much learning for questionable benefits in my own personal circumstance. It's while learning GVim, that I realized how good MicroEd is. GVim is the only editor that I've tried that can be made to do what MicroEd does. However, you have to learn so much to get there. It's an OK proposition for established GVim users, but not so for the one who wishes to use GVim for e-mail editing. > Adding QTs gives even more power. But it doesn't come close to Gvim, > Emacs, SlickEdit, etc. in raw power. It doesn't need to. This is my point. It's part of an e-mail program. It's designed for e-mail editing. It's not intended to be a be all and end all for text editing. However, for e-mail, it's very good. It's uncanny actually. :) > Since I use plain text, WYSIWYG is what I get :-) Quoted text is > handled as easily as reply text. Your paragraph below was > reformatted to 60 character text width by typing gq} on the first > line - Gvim speak for reformat paragraph. Yes. I'm familiar with GVim. I wasn't pulling your leg when I said that I had demystified it. :) I had reached pretty far with it. I was creating my own macros and was acquainted with most of the basic commands. I really put a lot of time into getting it to do what MicroEd simply does. > If all one was doing was writing email - and you didn't care > about the double space, MicroEd would be fine. Ah!! He agrees. :) MicroEd is an integrated editor in an e-mail client and is designed for writing e-mail. Why should it address more than e-mail editing needs? > But for those of us that program, we need an editor that can > accommodate programming needs. For example: MicroEd is an integrated editor in an email client. Why discuss it in the context of a programmers editing needs? > BTW, Allie, Gvim 7 is in alpha - build 81. It supports internal > spell check (and many other new features) and yes, it skips quoted > text :-) I don't wish to get caught in that obsession again. I tend to get determined in solving problems. GVim was one such problem and it almost consumed me. LOL! The more time you put into it, the more you wish not to put it down. Not unlike the Linux obsession I keep witnessing. :) I don't need GVims power. I realize that now. If I use that thing, it would be me taking a sledgehammer to kill and ant. I merely skim GVim's power editing e-mail. If that small amount of power was easily tapped on, I'd not mind either. But the problem is that it's not easily tapped on. It's also very different in approach to what I'm accustomed to and I now realize why those who use it, wish not to use anything else, especially if it doesn't offer similar power. It was an important experience for me and makes me now smile at the OS wars etc. -- Allie Martin System specs: http://www.ac-martin.com/sysspecs.htm -=-=- >From my brain, an organ with a mind of its own. ________________________________________________________ Current beta is (none) | 'Using TBBETA' information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html IMPORTANT: To register as a Beta tester, use this link first - http://www.ritlabs.com/en/partners/testers/
