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>> X> to.  Look  at  all  the  apps  XP SP2 broke when issued. I have had
>> X> trouble installing OS/2 on identical systems from Compaq - one went
>> X> fine, the other never took.

>> That's  no  excuse. Just because others fail doesn't mean we shouldn't
>> expect excellency from Ritlabs or, on the other hand, just forgive the
>> numerous bugs we've seen lately.

GP> I  think the point of what he is saying is that not it is a matter
GP> of  software  excellency  or  not.  Sometimes  your very excellent
GP> program  can  fail because of lack of excellency somewhere else in
GP> the system.

But  it's  not  the  case  here,  is  it? TB! problems are not located
elsewhere,  mainly  TB! problems are, IMHO, due to radical changes and
extreme  anxiety  to  release  a final version when major problems are
still present.


GP> Getting  excellency  all around becomes a matter of odds. The more

I  would  say, "a matter of careful testing". For instance, VMWare has
an  excellent product, that surely has bugs, but that are not evident.
By  the  traffic in the list you can see most people complaining about
something wrong in some part of TB! and many other people confirming.
We're here talking about an email client.


GP> components  you  have  working together the more likely it is that
GP> one of them will fail.

I  agree  with  you. Nevertheless this is an email client. Take a look
at VMWare... I never had significant problems with it, in fact I don't
think I had problems at all.

With  TB!  I  have  problems  at  least  once  a week. Yesterday I had
problems downloading my email. It stalled. I had to abort the task and
download  it  again.  In  the  end  I had to kill TB! via task manager
because  it  would refuse to quit due to some unfinished task. This is
not convenient and has been reported repeatedly.


I'm  not  trying  to bash the product or the company, I use TB! myself
and  like  it  a  lot  but some problems shouldn't see day light (with
proper internal testing). It's a must to build an image that everybody
associates with quality (like I do with VmWare).

-- 
Best regards,
Goncalo Farias

Make like, an alligator and drag ass.


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