Hello Avi,

Sunday, June 26, 2005, 1:44:57 PM, you wrote:

>> If  that  person has broken the list rules then they require reminding
>> of  said  rules  but the mods are usually remind the whole list of the
>> rules  in order to stop repeated breaking of the rules by other people
>> apart from those who are being trouted. So normally it is not just the
>> person that the trout is being flung at that is being told.

> Agreed with reservation. I think this can only work if the moderators
> are unbiased in respect to whom they single out as whipping boys.


Words carry power. This has been known for a very long time, and is
used unreservedly by many religions. For example, many Jews use
'HaShem' to refer to, hum, HaShem; many Christians frown on words like
'hell', and others.

<OT> One should also note that words are now used by the new religion
out there -- politics (perhaps, not so new). </OT>

Depending on one's upbringing, some words will be either rude or
blatantly offensive, while a different culture may consider the same
words nothing special. This makes moderating an international list
extremely complex, and almost impossible to be completely fair. This
is probably where we can plug this un-natural thing called courtesy...
and the knowledge that upbringing does not need to be coherent.

In other words, fairness in  moderation is a lost cause :-)

Any one doing moderation will eventually find it so, or has already
found it so. All we need is time.

But, let's move on to bias. Every moderator is biased. This is no big
deal -- we are *all* biased, one way or another --, see above. The
difference is understanding that one is biased, and trying to find out
if the inbred/developed bias is acceptable (to one's ethical being).

So, yes, Marck is biased. So are you. So am I. Yet I do not find
Marck's bias selective on whom gets the whip. He is doing what he is
tasked to and, as far as I can see, doing it as correctly as possible,
even if I do not completely agree with it. And... the fact that I do
not agree with it does not bring any demerit to his moderation.

And, at the end of the day, I find I still can live with you, Marck,
and everybody else here.

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