Hello Steve Lamb,

On Friday, September 24, 1999, 2:17:08 AM you told us:

Great Explanation Steve!

Now  I  will  share  how  do  I  identify  spam  and create anti-spam,
especially for Dial Up User.

TF>> Now,  how  do  you actually set the filter to identify spam, i.e.
TF>> make TB tell it apart from legitimate mail?

Long time ago, before I can't "read" message header well; I ask to the
Maillist  or  someone  who I guess have capability to read the message
header well (I was prefering send it to Postmaster of my ISP).

With this approach, I will know who done it.

I  noticed,  if  the  spammers  came  from individuals, it's simple to
counter;  just  make filter as Steve or Leif mentioned. The problem is
if  the spammers came from List Processor or he/she using telnet trick
via open Relay Mail Server,

At  first,  I  sent  message  to spammers (if I do not want to receive
further  msg  from him), if no answer; sent msg again to list owner or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (domain.com = the mail domain of the spammers).

Then, if the spammers keep spam me, I do as follow :
- Create filter to filter out message from Spammers.
- Create  auto  action, redirected those message to non-existent mail
  address (but existent mail domain).

What happen then ?
The  spammers  will  receive  Transient Delivery Failure Message every
4-hours   in   5-days from our ISP Mailer-Daemon (this is standard RFC
for Internet SMTP mail server).

Because  I  have my own Mail Server and I do as Postmaster here, I can
set in my Mail Server to sent bounce message back to the spammers plus
full  message  and  attachment  every 5 minutes for 5-days (actually I
never  do  this, because my Mail Server already equipt with Anti-Spam,
just put the spammers on the list, and my Mail Server do the rest).

Honestly,   even   the  stronght List Server such MajorDomo, ListServ,
Ezmlm, ListBoot give up with these approach.
If  the spam came from Open Relay Mail Server, at least the postmaster
or  Sysadmin  will contact us (or maybe to spam us as well :-)), so at
the end he (postmaster) will knows if his Mail Server have a whole and
will corrected.

Asking  the  spammers  message  header  to  the  Maillist give another
advantage,  other  list member can give you legitimate of the spammers
plus  (commonly) will help us to listed on his Black List Mail Server;
or  (if  still  did)  sent abuse mail to Anti-Spam Organization such :
MAPS-RBL, ORBS etc.

BTW.  I  ever seen someone redirected spam message to the owner of M$,
he  thinks  M$  will  have  good  anti-spam on his system, but I don't
recommend this for you :-)

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Created : Friday, September 24, 1999, 9:52:35 (GMT + 07:00)



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