Hello, fellow Bat-lovers.

On Saturday, January 29, 2000, 7:20:49 PM, John wrote:

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JDH> To get the charset header, open the Xlat manager under Options, add an
JDH> entry for Korean, and put the char set in Character set name. Then
JDH> make Korean your default character set or the one you define for
JDH> specific folders or templates. You can also select it individually
JDH> when you compose a message, under Options | Message encoding.

Ah. I had assumed there was more that needed to be done, such as
setting up mapping tables. Apparently all we're doing, though, is
telling TB what charset to put in the header; I don't think it affects
how TB actually handles the message.

JDH> Just for
JDH> fun I've added it to this message, and here's some Japanese for you.

JDH>   ���{��Ή��͂����ē���Ȃ��B

Thanks. It looks good, and I can actually "read" it. Of course,
"understanding" is another matter; it's been 30 years, and once I got
past the initial kanji....

JDH> There's a problem here, though. Perhaps since The Bat! won't let me
JDH> change the transfer encoding to 7 bits (since ISO-2022-JP is a 7-bit
JDH> transfer encoding scheme that uses an escape sequence to encode 8-bit
JDH> characters), or perhaps because of a weakness in NJWin or in my
JDH> understanding of it, the text is actually sent as Shift-JIS, not the
JDH> encoding in my header.

Ouch! Not good; that's a pretty major difference.

Note that I received the following header in your message:

X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by coral.ocn.ne.jp id LAA14050

JDH> As a result, if you were to view the above in a
JDH> Japanese font, you should be able to read it even without a program
JDH> like NJWin, and in fact it will look better than with NJWin's fonts.

But probably not in English Win95/98....

JDH> But at the same time Shift-JIS is not really recommended for Internet
JDH> mail use, although many Web sites use it. It can get mangled in some
JDH> systems and even will crash some older systems.

Right.

JDH> On the font issue, it seems that NJWin uses its own fonts, which are
JDH> kind of ugly.

Are you sure they're NJWin fonts? I'll have to try viewing your
Japanese with the various viewers I have and see if there's a
difference, I guess.

JDH> I've ordered the official version, which is supposed to
JDH> have better font support. But The Bat!, as you noted, does not seem to
JDH> have a way to change fonts outside the editor and viewer, such as
JDH> those in the header display.

Can you really effectively change fonts in the editor and viewer?
Granted, I can change them; it just doesn't same to make any
difference--I always get the same Korean font displayed.

In return for your Japanese, here's some Korean for you!

�̰��� �������Դϴ�.

Let me know how both the Korean and Japanese come through in this
message.

Thomas and those of you running NT and 2000 with CJK support, what are
you seeing?

-- 
 Keith Russell
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Using The Bat! 1.39 under Windows 98 4.10 Build 1998  a Pentium II 233 with 64 MB.

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