On Tue, 2 May 2000 10:34:00 -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:

>     Yes because Shift-CNTL-Del doesn't delete a single message.  You're
> missing the point.  When I read in Mutt in threaded display to delete
> both single messages and threads I use one key.  CNTL-D.  That's it.  I
> don't have to decide "Oh, this is a single message, press D."  It is
> more "Nope, CNTL-D, nope, CNTL-D, nope, CNTL-D, nope, CNTL-D."  Were
> those single messages or threads?  Does it matter?  Let me put it this
> way:

I just tried it Steve. I am using beta 20. In thread view
<CTRL><SHIFT><Del> deletes single messages with no other messages
attached. I'm not smoking anything. I'm not hallucinating. :-) I'm using
TB! version 1.42b20 in Win2K.

>     What is a single message but a thread with a single entry in it?

:-) If you insist. :-))))

>   Why does TB! /NOT/ operate on threads with only single messages in it.

It does. At least in the version I'm using; and I say this as a
non-smoker. A Non-drinker as well. Sober as one can be. <vbg>

>     You missed the point.

I don't think so. If I hit <CTRL><SHIFT><Del> in a thread with multiple
messages then all messages are gone. If I wish to delete a single message
in a multiple message thread then I hit <del>. This is necessary because
TB! cannot read my mind and know whether or not I wish to delete all
messages or just a single message.

On my machine and with my installation fo TB!. If I have a lone message in
threaded view both <CTRL><SHIFT><Del> and <del> will delete the message.
Is this not what you are referring to?

>   The point is the quick efficient deletion of unwanted email.  In TB! I
> have to switch between the two shortcuts to do effectively the same
> thing.  You're also incorrect that it takes two messages to form a
> thread.  I am replying to your message.  It was in reply to mine.
> However, I have already deleted mine.  It, however, is still a part of a
> thread.  It has references and in-reply-to.  Just because I don't have
> the other components doesn't mean TB! shout /not/ delete that message.

Whatever Steve. I'll not get into the semantics of that part. :-)

>     Looking at it another way, what harm is there, exactly, in having "delete
> thread" delete a single message?  Clearly the user wanted it deleted.  Clearly
> there is no harm done since it would be deleted either way.

I see no harm in it. I however, fail to see it as a *singular* reason to
not using TB!'s threading as you implied. :-)

>> !But hold on a minute! I noted that the keyboard shortcut you stated
>> for deleting an entire thread is <CNTRL><DEL>. AFAIK, that's incorrect.
>> With the correct shortcut <SHIFT><CTRL><Del>, you *can* delete single
>> message *threads* 'intuitively! I just tried it.

>     It is incorrect.  Hardly surprising considering my admittance that I don't
> use it.  I just tried it again and it doesn't work still.  I don't know what
> crack you're smoking but it must be good stuff for you to hallucinate like
> that.  Make sure to bring some if you ever visit the states.  Mind the dogs at
> the gate, though.

ROTFLMAO!!!  Ah, I suspect that you know us for the good stuff.

Anyway, TB! does it here. Each beta has at the bottom .... "And some minor
cosmetic fixes". I see from your message headers,  that you're using
beta18. Could this be the reason why you think that I may be smoking? :-)
I suggest that you check. Who knows you may suddenly love TB!'s threading
because of this discovery. :-)

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� 2000 Allie Martin       /*\       Using TB! v1.42 Beta/20 on Win2k Pro
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