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Monday, August 07, 2000, 1:22:24 PM, Nick wrote:
> On August 7, 2000, at 10:27:38 AM, Mark Aston Wrote:
>> Actually it's the S/MIME that makes the message 6K or thereabouts, the
>> PGP doesn't make much difference.
>>
>> Whilst it was a new feature and being tested on TBBETA it was OK, now
>> I find the attachments quite irritating for use on a mailing list.
> Mark, I'm curious why they irritate you? Is it the fact they show up in
> the attachment bar, even though technically they are not treated as an
> attachment by TB!?
Nick, if I might take a stab at this, I think when he said it taking up 6k
that he might actually have meant that having it take up 6k is annoying. To
me, that would be annoying to. What is even more annoying is that I can't
/see/ why it is taking up 6k. No idea at all since "Show kludges" no longer
shows the whole message and "save as..." doesn't save the message as is,
either. I guess I could export it somewhere. Just did. E-Gads! Who the
hell made that standard!? The consortium of DSL providers to get people off
modems! Yeesh! 41 lines to sign a message!? PGP does it in *7*.
> Some argue digital signatures don't belong in Public Mailing Lists, yet I
> would argue otherwise.
PGP, GPG signatures are ok. But that travesty called S/MIME has got to
go! 2870 bytes to sign something far less than that!?
> TB!'s developers did not include the recent S/MIME feature simply to try
> it out in TBBETA and to annoy Users thereafter, but rather as a feature
> of the Mail Client to be used on a day to day basis by it's Users.
Lord, I hope not. PGP isn't bad because the signature is small compared
to the body of most messages. S/MIME is larger than most messages. That puts
it in a category worse than HTML mail.
If they want people to use security on a day-to-day basis this is what
they need to do:
a: download PMMail2000 Professional
b: study its PGP implementation, especially the UI
c: Copy it.
d: Improve upon it, if they can.
I only recently started using PGP in TB! because I decided it was time
start showing my beliefs in the wake of Carnivore news. Geez, is it ever a
/PAIN/ to use compared to when I was using PGP on PMMail2000Pro.
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