On Wednesday, June 28, 2000 at 8:37 PM or thereabouts, starc wrote the
following about why do u discriminate me just cuz Im new to this
list?:
starc> As you see, I wasn�t trying to impose a change...instead I
starc> asked a question, why aren�t things being different, and what I
starc> think would be better. I dont think it�s wrong to ask a
starc> question. If u read the subject of my original mail u will see
starc> that its also formulated as a question.
First of all, I don't think anyone has discriminated against you,
merely pointed out the problems (we perceive) with what you proposed,
as well as the generally-accepted wisdom of not making your first
post(s) to a group of any kind one in which you point out their
perceived inadequacies. To be accurate about it, though you can call
statements ending in a question mark mere questions, when they
disparage the current state of things, referring to them as
antiquated, stone-age, inefficient, etc., you've done a lot more than
ask a question.
CM>> Another disadvantage of Usenet newsgroups is the spam that
CM>> follows posts there, with the attendant loss of privacy and/or
CM>> the need to institute anti-spam measures with return addresses,
CM>> etc.
starc> This in fact was the only disadvantage u pointed out.
Actually, I pointed out more than that. Perhaps a re-reading is in
order, either of my post or other folks' responses, as they pointed
out the same things, and more.
starc> Hmm...u admit urself that my suggestions wheren�t bad at all.
Yes, I did, but only out of politeness and in an attempt to temper the
post somewhat. I personally didn't like them or feel them
appropriate, but I allow for the possibility that you, and maybe
others, would feel differently.
starc> So I don�t understand why u are critisizing me. Just cuz Im
starc> new? Would my posting be more valuable if I had stuck a while
starc> around here?
Your post wasn't necessarily valueless because you are new, but it's
hard to argue that the probability of value and relevance increase
with one's familiarity with both the subject matter at hand and the
fellow listmembers and, as you said, you are new here.
starc> And...by the way...new people are sometimes better enabled to
starc> see things that are wrong...cuz the older users are already
starc> familiar with it, they got used to the system and to those
starc> things that are wrong.
This can be quite true, of course ... however, one does not put their
best foot forward by criticizing the status quo when one has just
arrived.
CM>> Nothing personal ... just good netiquette, which I know you're
CM>> familiar with being so at ease on Usenet.
starc> Yeah...Im also familiar with people like u, who think that
starc> their main task is to point their fingers onto other people...
Once again, if you stick around here long enough to get to know
people, perhaps listening and watching along the way, you may have a
more solid foundation from which to stand and make criticisms against
both the program, its method of discussion, and the people surrounding
you. But, I persist in feeling that you cannot make more than a stab
at it as a self--professed new arrival.
Again, I think it might be helpful to re-read my original post ... I
think you put a lot more in there than was actually written or
intended.
Chuck
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The greater the ignorance, the greater the dogmatism.
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