Hello Johannes & other fellow TB! Users,
Sunday, December 03, 2000, you stated:
>> ... Does YOUR ISP do that?
JMP> No, my ISP server has a specific setup (RADIUS limiting you to 100
JMP> mails a day, 1000 mails a month, default SMTP server even REWRITES the
JMP> From:-Line you where sending, if you dont like this, you have to sign
JMP> a contract that lets you use a special smtprelay!)
JMP> Nevertheless, all bigger ISPs (UUnet, Arcor Germany, Ecore just
JMP> to name a few) have the same limit on recipients.
gmx also?
>> And reply off list if you care to.
JMP> I don't agree on this one, sorry. ... IMHO it is perfectly
JMP> on-topic, I'm im mistaken a *moderator* shall tell this.
JMP> Thanks.
OK. The horse rides on. What follows is an "Examination of Spam & the
Spammer":
The name "Spam" originated as a cheap, canned lunch meat containing
parts of dead animals not generally sold separately; that is, parts
generally discarded, waste parts that were not normally even by
those who do aliment themselves with foodstuffs of a dead animal
origin. It's flavor was considered unattractive by most, but it was
cheap and therefore used primarily by the poor.
As applied to email, the term "Spam" implies unsolicited
correspondence, usually of a commercial nature: That is, either a
sales pitch or a lure to what will soon be one. Visitors to
web sites that place cookies or outright ask for email address are
often later subjected to Spam, as a result. However, the bulk of
what's considered Spam is driven by special technologies designed to
filter through the POP3 servers that supply incoming email to entire
domains, WITHOUT being actually directed to each individual email
account owner.
List servers such as that used by TBUDL send single messages to a
large number of email accounts, but this is not considered Spamming,
even though many opinions expressed in such forums is often not
agreeable by all list members, since all voluntarily subscribed to
the list. This is why mailing lists frequently confirm subscriptions
by return mail before actually initiating service.
Another example is exemplified by a recent email message sent to me
by an Emeritus Professor at the University of Hawaii as a member of
a group he chairs that forms part of the International Horticultural
Science Society's Sub-Commission on Tropical for Subtropical Fruits.
In it he asked us all to check the list and notify him if any names
were missing. The list contained 195 names and email addresses all
together (made visible of course using shft+ctrl+k) and was not sent
by a list server.
We can conclude that a person who sends a single message to a group
of people using a specific email address for each contained in an
email client's address book (Eudora Version 4.3.1 in this case), is
by no stretch of the imagination "spamming".
However, not all ISPs are born equal, and some are much better than
others. Some take measures ostensibly designed to "protect" their
clients that actually perform a disservice. When that happens, this
can be considered "stupid" on the part of the ISP. The Spanish term
often employed for describing such goings on is "pendejada" and the
term often used to describe those who do this is "culero". Both
terms refer to parts of the human anatomy that are not generally
exposed publicly.
An important part of what I do professionally can be considered
"policy making", which is driven by a desire for and belief in the
benefits accrued by having foresight, being considerate and
providing the greatest possibly degree of security to all those
involved so that each can be efficient and able fulfill his or her
obligations, thus fortifying the implementation of said policies.
When we accomplish is, we find we are successful in reaching our
overall goals and all concerned benefit.
Another important part of what I do professionally can be considered
"policy breaking", which is also driven by a desire for and belief
in the benefits accrued by having foresight, being considerate and
providing the greatest possibly degree of security to all those
involved. When we have to we to accomplish this, we find that by
doing so, the possibilities for all of us being successful in
reaching our overall goals are increased.
IOW, there are times when one must say: Basta con estos Pendejadas.
Complacency and subservience are often inappropriate. But then, I
eat at least 3 different kinds of hot chili peppers daily.
I think that about does it.
Best regards,
Douglas Hinds
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