> nen> I don't want to have to use a blank line every time I want to
> nen> have a short line. Am I mistaken or is there some way around
> nen> that? I tried the 1.53bis version just now and it is the same
> nen> with Auto-Format as TheBat! has been since that feature came out
> nen> I believe.
>
> nen> So Auto-Format to me is worse than without it.
>
> Ctrl-Shift-F toggles it on and off. I leave it off and toggle it on
> when I want to use it.
Better than nothing, but that's a kludge fix really, not a solution.
> nen> I will agree that TheBat!'s editor has a lot going for it. The
> nen> Alt-L feature that rewraps quoted material correctly is
> nen> brilliant, I love it. I just don't want to have to use it, it
> nen> should be automatic.
>
> I *completely* disagree. Some long lines are long for a *reason*. For
> instance, they contain URLs or regular expression macros. I want
> complete control over which lines wrap and which lines don't.
Well, good point. I would like to have the option to at least be able
to set it as automatic though. Far, far more times I will want my
quoted material rewrapped than not. And it would be rather easy to
build in url-removal from wrapping and even short line-removal so lists
and such are kept in order (though the definition of a short line would
be troublesome). That stuff is easy, which is sort of why I am a bit
boggled that it hasn't been implemented when so many more difficult
things have been.
> nen> I think it would be so much better if the editor:
>
> nen> a. included an option to make all use of the 'enter' key
> nen> translate to a hard return and all other line breaks equal soft
> nen> returns. That way you can have your forced text breaks but still
> nen> be able to have that 'auto-format' type of wrapping while
> nen> editing.
>
> Agreed and, hopefully, the planned rewrite of the editor will include
> that functionality. It needn't be optional either.
When that is implemented, I will be first in line to buy TheBat!
> nen> b. wrapped quoted material in a reply (but we already agree this
> nen> would be a nice feature and hopefully implemented soon.) I would
> nen> hope that the macro gets put in as the standard reply format so I
> nen> can recommend TB! to friends who don't want to mess around with
> nen> the client much. :)
>
> Hmmm... we'll see. I wouldn't like it to be the default because of the
> fact that "quotes" should (by default) be a representation of what was
> said in the same format.
I see what you mean. I would probably judge that your average user
would much rather have it wrapped than not, so a default setting of
wrapped would be useful in selling TheBat! to people trying out a demo,
but a simple checkbox option would remove that feature for those who
want the quoted material to be truly accurate.
And if it wasn't the default, then a simple checkbox option to enable it
would be the best bet. Either way would be fine with me, but I think
the former would sell more licenses.
> nen> And no, I am not some OE user who wants the world to conform to
> nen> the popular standard. I don't like OE.
>
> I'm glad to hear it. (I can see you're a Becky user anyway).
Only for a few more days. I was in the process of getting ready to port
over to Mozilla, but I may try TheBat! again to see if I can get used to
the Ctrl-Shift-F usage for turning the Auto-Format on and off. I
generally dislike Alt/Ctrl/etc commands that I would have to use a lot.
> Well, good luck with the search. Thanks for your input and sharing
> your views with us here. Hopefully we will see some of these
> improvements in forthcoming versions.
Agreed. If I knew the Enter=Hard Return feature would be implemented
soon, I'd get TB! now probably.
Thanks.
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