Hi All,

On  Thu, 6 Sep 2001 at 11:14:27 GMT +0530 (9/6/2001 12:44 PM GMT +0700
where you think I live) "Raj"=[R]typed the following :

JA>> Not that I'm aware of.  However, I had created a translation template
JA>> that could translate the GMT time into various languages.  If
JA>> you could explain how the Hijri date and Islamic calender work, it
JA>> might be possible to modify that template.

R> http://webexhibits.org/calendars/calendar-islamic.html

Thanks for the link, Raj.
There  is  Indian  Calender  too  which  have equivalence here in Java
Island (we called "Caka" or "shaka" Calender).

R> Each month starts when the lunar crescent is first seen (by a human
R> observer's eye) after a new moon.

R> Although  new  moons  may be calculated quite precisely, the actual
R> visibility  of  the  crescent is much more difficult to predict. It
R> depends  on  factors such as weather, the optical properties of the
R> atmosphere,  and the location of the observer. It is therefore very
R> difficult  to give accurate information in advance about when a new
R> month will start.

Indeed,  but nowadays data from observatories widely use here (we have
one  in  Lembang, Boscha), my calender here having both (International
and  Muslim  Calender),  I  have  other  that  have  3  (Java Calender
include).

R> Furthermore,  some  Muslims depend on a local sighting of the moon,
R> whereas others depend on a sighting by authorities somewhere in the
R> Muslim  world.  Both are valid Islamic practices, but they may lead
R> to different starting days for the months.

This is true for solicited site :-)

There is others that make difference :
- some referring to local sighting of moon in the evening
  This "group" said, new days start in the evening, for example this
  afternoon is Thursday, tonight is Friday.
  My country Indonesia is one that use this term.
- others referring to local sighting of moon in dawn.
  This group said, new days start in the dawn.
  Arab Saudi is one of the example.

Both are valid.
This conditions makes sometimes we have different days for "Ied Days".
Indonesia  said  it  is  on Sunday 16 December 2001, but Saudi said
Saturday 15 December 2001 :-)

R> Different methods for estimating the calendars are used.

R> Some  sources  mention  a  crude  system  in which all odd numbered
R> months  have 30 days and all even numbered months have 29 days with
R> an  extra  day  added  to the last month in 'leap years' (a concept
R> otherwise  unknown in the calendar). Leap years could then be years
R> in  which  the number year mod 30 is one of the following: 2, 5, 7,
R> 10,  13,  16, 18, 21, 24, 26, or 29.

R> (This  is  the  algorithm  used  in the calendar program of the Gnu
R> Emacs editor.)

Wow...I didn't realize it, thanks to the info.

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- Syafril -               mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


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