Hi Shahar, hi Dave!

Thank you very much for your quick and informative responses!

Monday, April 1, 2002, 3:24:24 PM, you wrote:

S> I sent once about 900 recipients and The But was freeze. Was on P133,
S> 64MB RAM. Never tried later. Since then I use a mass mailing software
S> that go directly to the Database and merges the data from there.

That does not sound like The Bat! is really capable of handling such
large amounts of messages. Did you use mass mailing or direct BCC? And
what software do you use now? I have only experience with majordomo
and ezmlm but my favorite would be a fit-the-purpose Windows
application which is stable enough to handle many users (+ automated
error-handling as well as un- / subscriptions) and not a configured
down mailinglist manager which requires a -ix os.

S> Have no idea about the BCC field limitation.

No RFC I know of states any limitation (ok, it was a rather quick
check) but I suppose most MTA's have a limitation of some kind.

DiPA> support told me I would "blow the bcc buffer", The result was
DiPA> E-mails were lost in Cyberspace with no bounce just receivers
DiPA> never received.

That's exactly the scenario I certainly do not want for my newsletter.
:*)

DiPA> If I send using my ISP (Cox cable) it takes an hour or so one
DiPA> message at a time, typically about 60k in size each. For the
DiPA> last month or so I started using PointCast Server Software.

Well - that should not be a limitation in my case. I have only ADSL
but a provider (www.t-online.de) who is featuring a quite good smtp
relay which is available only for it's customers but not very critical
about speed. Straight 128 kbit/s + a small message size should do the
job very well.

DiPA> Both ways using Bat to produce via mass mailing template 800
DiPA> (actually was 795) separate messages instead of bcc, solved the
DiPA> "missing in space" problem. The time required to send using ISP
DiPA> as smtp or my computer using Point Cast is about the same since
DiPA> I have to rerun Point Cast 4-5 times to overcome time outs. But
DiPA> I like Point Cast since I have more control and can see what is
DiPA> going on.

Hmm. Do you think that The Bat!'s maximum amount of emails stored in a
folder is limited in some fashion? Anyway I think there should be a
macro for mass mailing in a feature version. I really do not like the
approach to ...

 1. edit a file with the newsletter body
 2. select all receivers of the specific message
 3. select the mass mailing option from the Addressbook

These are waaay to many steps to make this feature foolproof.

DiPA> Good luck

Thank you very much for sharing your experiences with me!

Best regards from Berlin,


rgs/joern
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