Hello --pb,

On Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:50:11 -0400 GMT (19/06/02, 00:50 +0700 GMT),
--pb wrote:

p>      I have use and tried The Bat! for some times now, and I must say
p>      that my feelings are mixed regarding this e-mail client. The
p>      program is buggy, no doubt about that.

It has some minor bugs that are over-advertised, IMHO. I do not know a
single piece of software that does not have any bugs. But TB is the
only piece of software that I know where there is a real communication
with the developers, they listen, they fix the bugs, and they
implement our wishes.

p>  Sometimes crashes,

Not here, but I don't doubt that on some systems it does. Would you
care to describe the circumstances under which you experience this?

p> some functions behave "bizarrement".

I don't understand this. Which functions do you find bizarre, and why?

p>  Cannot use PGP 7.xx plus...

If you could just forward a copy of the source code, the plugin will
be written, I am sure.

p> But, on the other hand, you have some strong features like
p> filtering and Templates. But then, you must have a master's degree
p> just to learn those damn Regex machin choses.

But you don't need them. If you do know how to use RegEx, TB is a very
powerful tool for the advanced user - even seasoned programmers love
it. If you don't know RegEx, you still have a filtering system that is
far better than any other client I know. the only RegExes I use are
the ones I have copied from the FAQ site. I do not claim to fully
understand them. But I do claim that what they do is pure luxury. Do
you know of another client that could create the "time line" (as I
like to call it) at the beginning of this reply?

p>      So here I am at the crossroads, should I go back to Outlook or
p>      should I wait for The Bat! 2.0?

I have "converted" a few people from Outlook to TB for the single
reason that MS declares its bugs and security holes as "features". The
Klez virus, to name just one example, would be stillborn if not so
many people used Outlook. I had an email exchange with Trend Antivirus
when their newsletter still said "this virus propagates itself
automatically by email programs". As most viruses do need OL/OE, they
have since changed the text accrdingly.

If you do want to compromise your system by default and install OL,
that's up to you. But kindly ensure that my email address is nowhere
on your system. ;-)

p>      My wish list would include, for a good The Bat! client, these
p>      features:

p>      1. Totally revamped interface (GUI). Skinable preferably, since
p>      this one is so ugly.

Ugliness (as is beauty) is in the eye of the beholder. With TB being a
tool for people who like functionality rather than colourful clickable
interfaces, I believe there has been limited priority on the GUI.
However, if you want to come up with some creative ideas, I would
suggest you contact Ritlabs directly.

p>      2. Macros and Template creations should be done without a single
p>      % sign ;-) That is, I would like to see check boxes, drop down
p>      menus, options, clickable buttons, etc. Even though these things
p>      (http://www.ginkyo.org/contenu/pages/TheBat/thebat_macros.htm)
p>      are powerful when properly configured, they nonetheless are
p>      ridiculous when you think about a large non-geek audience.

Right. A non-geek autdience would probably not have any use for the
functionality of that template, though. But I do like the idea of
adding a GUI version for macro usage, in addition to the current
version (which programmers like). Have you already added it to the
wishlist?

By the way, hearing your critisism, which client are you talking about
that offers this particular functionality for a non-geek audience?

p>      3. Stability! Of course, when my computer reboots, when I lose
p>      messages and attachments, this is no fun at all.

Well, I cannot comment on that. TB has been running stable over here
since version 1.34, so I wonder what problem the with your system is.
Would you care to elaborate?

p>      So, if someone can answer this question, I will have a clear idea
p>      as what to do:

p>      Will The Bat! 2.0 be out some day?

Here is the answer: Yes. ;-) But I personally don't care about version
numbers. Would it have satisfied you had they called this current
version 2.0?

-- 

Cheers,
Thomas.

Moderator der deutschen The Bat! Beginner Liste.

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