On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 17:53:09 +0700
Thomas Fernandez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hallo Jonathan,
> 
> On Thu, 21 Nov 2002 05:15:23 -0500 GMT (21/11/02, 17:15 +0700 GMT),
> Jonathan Chattin wrote:
> 
> > Hmmm, I've never been very fond of the whole "Human Right" argument.
> > To be honest it is fairly silly. Nature doesn't guarantee anything.
> 
> But the United Nations do. Human Rights are defined by general
> agreement, like any law (they do not come from Nature, in this you are
> right). These are rights that all humans have within the human
> society. These rights cannot be taken away from them without either
> claiming exceptions, such as during prison terms, or by violating the
> UN resolution - the latter is meant when people speak about violation
> of human rights.

Ahh, I see your point. I suppose I should refrain from debating issues
when I've been up all night. (It's 6am here now.) I entirely
overlooked Dierk's comment about China. :-(

> BTW the right to not have your email client show that you bought
> it for a discount, is not a human right.

And here I completely agree with you.


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