Ok, They have fixed the self-signed hostname error, but Im still having trouble :-
1/24/2003, 14:44:05: FETCH - receiving mail messages 1/24/2003, 14:44:06: FETCH - Initiating TLS handshake 1/24/2003, 14:44:06: FETCH - Certificate S/N: 0, algorithm: RSA (1024 bits), issued from 24 Jan 2003 to 24 Jan 2004, for 1 host(s): mail.fluidhosting.com. 1/24/2003, 14:44:06: FETCH - Owner: US, Connecticut, Storrs, Fluid Hosting, Mail Server, mail.fluidhosting.com. 1/24/2003, 14:44:06: FETCH - This certificate is self-issued. 1/24/2003, 14:44:07: FETCH - TLS handshake complete 1/24/2003, 14:44:07: FETCH - Connect failed I used ethereal to packet capture as well, and it shows that there is only two packets of application data, lengths 24 and 72 respectively, if that helps (both's direction is from server to me). . I also just tried it by using the openssl from the .rar file and manually doing a pop3 check - which works fine.. Seems like it is a quirk with The Bat! which is causing trouble? *scratches head* any ideas? Felix ________________________________________________ Current version is 1.62 | "Using TBUDL" information: http://www.silverstones.com/thebat/TBUDLInfo.html

