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Hi Alexander,

On Sat, 2 Apr 2005 20:25:53 +0200 (2:25 PM here), Alexander S. Kunz
[ASK] wrote in <mid:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

ASK> A good virus scanner is only one part of a complete security
ASK> strategy, and you named a couple of very good additional programs
ASK> (and conception) that I use myself, too. :-)

I'm sure there are some other useful security related program that I
haven't heard of. I'm always interested in that type of thing. I
suppose we should move this to TBOT. To keep on topic, I consider The
Bat! another important part of the overall security scheme.

>> While its true you often get what you pay for, I think a reasonable
>> defence can be built for free. Not all AV programs are effective
>> for intercepting spyware.

ASK> You are of course right. Currently, dealing with ad- and spyware
ASK> requires separate programs (Mica: free programs, oh yes ;-).

I can appreciate those living on a fixed income and I'm thankful that
there are free programs that can be utilized.

ASK> I can imagine that more and more AV program vendors will include
ASK> complete spyware removal into their products in the future,
ASK> because ad- and spyware becomes more and more "virus" (or trojan)
ASK> like.

This seems to be the trend. The various threats are beginning to blend
together. Already some of the "Suites" are already attempting to do
this. Their cost is fairly significant and then there's the annual
renewal fees.

ASK> For anyone who's interested, there's a nice set of articles by
ASK> Tom Liston of ISC that describes the problem:

Thanks ... I visited the links and tried the bad boy link. No spyware
was installed, so what I have must be working.

>> Most of us spend a fair amount of money on our hardware and
>> Internet access. Buying a decent AV package should be part of the
>> process. Yes, you can do it for free, but is it worth the risk?

ASK> I rest my case. :-)

I think these types of discussions help elevate awareness of both the
problems and the solutions.

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Kevin Coates
Dewitt, NY USA

Using TB! v3.0.2.10 under Windows XP 5.1.2600 SP2
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