I've been thinking about the deployment process of applications using 
Terracotta, which is slightly tangential to this discussion, however one 
thing I noticed is that the tc-config.xml lives outside the normal 
process - i.e. we require that it live on the filesystem, while a lot of 
work has been done in Java to abstract away from the filesystem itself, 
and put resources on the classpath.

So is there a possibility of allowing the tc-config file to be loaded 
from the classpath instead of a hard file resource?  This seems like a 
simple first step for smoothing a lot of deployments including the 
plugin deployments.

If there is already this option, then I am just dumb.

Nathaniel Harward wrote:
> A large part of the next Terracotta release (2.5) will be integration
> work and tools to make using Terracotta with other software easier. 
> This includes building a) a plugin for Geronimo and b) a plugin for
> Maven 2 -- the question before us now is exactly how and what to do on
> each of these.  I would like to outline the high level goals and lines
> of thought for each subproject and get feedback so that we build them in
> a way that will be useful to people.
>
>
>       Geronimo
>
>
>     The goal here is to create a Terracotta plugin for Geronimo such
>     that Geronimo users can install it in the normal plugin fashion (a
>     few clicks from the console as I understand it) and at a minimum
>     immediately start using Terracotta session clustering.  This should
>     be a completely automated process: the user should *not* have to
>     separately download the Terracotta distribution, and ideally not do
>     anything else outside of the Geronimo console/environment to get
>     things going -- this needs to be a very streamlined process.
>
>     Things we need to investigate:
>
>        1. How do users configure Terracotta once the plugin is installed?
>        2. Do we have two plugins - one each for the Terracotta client
>           and server with a shared core as a dependency? If not where
>           does the Terracotta server go?
>        3. How/what do we plug in to the Geronimo console for management?
>
>
>       Maven 2
>
>
>     The goal here is to create a Maven 2 plugin for people to use
>     Terracotta while building and testing their applications; it should
>     support the following use cases:
>
>        1. Application level user: user wants to run their tests with
>           Terracotta enabled by running 'mvn test' and specifying the
>           Terracotta plugin as a test dependency
>        2. Integrator: framework developer wants to create a Terracotta
>           configuration module for their framework; need to run tests
>           with it (as above) as well as package/publish the module when
>           ready. This will require making ManagerUtil and potentially
>           other classes available to integrators at compile time as well
>        3. Both types of users should be equipped with Terracotta
>           archetypes if they are starting from scratch
>
>     Our own configuration modules should be the first victi- er... users
>     of our Maven 2 plugin, and they will most likely be pulled out of
>     the existing source tree and put on their own.  If done we will also
>     likely pull binary versions of these published configuration modules
>     when making an official distribution.
>
>     One goal of this effort is to [when possible] have the maintainers
>     of a framework/appserver/etc. maintain the Terracotta configuration
>     module for their framework/app as they develop and change it, since
>     they know it best and are in the best position to do so.  For this
>     to happen the maintainence/build/test/publish process must be easy
>     for them to do and fit into their normal dev/release processes.
>
>     Things we need to investigate, and in particular what I think could
>     use some feedback:
>
>        1. How is the Terracotta configuration going to be done?  Do we
>           go with a detached tc-config.xml file, or should we make it so
>           locks/roots/etc. are defined in the plugin configuration in
>           pom.xml?  Does the pom.xml configuration just point to a
>           detached tc-config.xml?
>        2. The POM already describes dependencies like spring, libraries,
>           whether or not it's a web application, app. servers, etc. -
>           can we use this to auto-generate a tc-config.xml for 1) above?
>        3. Is support for JUnit testing enough initially?  TestNG? Others?
>
>
> I realize this is very high level and a lot of details need to be sorted
> out, but hopefully this gives some kind of coherent overview of where we
> are trying to go.  Please reply if you have feedback or ideas on the
> matter so we can take them into consideration as we try to hammer this
> out over the next week.
>
> Thanks,
> Nat
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