Watson,

On 02/08/14 19:46, Watson Ladd wrote:
> design by committee?

I guess you're using the above as a short-hand for the various
ways in which IETF WGs, or maybe any set of people, can screw up.
If so, that's ok-ish.

However, I've also seen people use that phrase without any
understanding of how the IETF works, where they really seem to
believe they're dealing with a Robert's Rules clique sitting
around a table and not with a mailing list where what's required
is to make technically sound points in your emails, and nothing
else.

I think it'd be better if we all here kept the latter to the
forefront of our minds and didn't get all wrapped up in the
problems of non-existent committees.

And speaking of which...

> Why don't we attempt to determine which shortcomings need to be
> addressed and how to fix them with tcpcrypt, instead of design
> by committee?

The WG now has four proposals to deal with. In a way that's a good
thing as it indicates a level of interest from serious proponents
of each of the solutions. It clearly does make the WG's task more
complicated though. Fairness requires a bit of due diligence before
down-selecting to one starting point for the WG. ISTM that the
chairs are doing that and without delay.

S.

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