Martin Stiemerling wrote this message on Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 04:16 -0500:
> a) draft-rescorla-tcpinc-tls-option-03
> b) draft-bittau-tcpinc-tcpcrypt-03
> 
> Please respond to the tcpinc wg mailing list until
> 
>     July 31st, 2015
>     1pm CEST
> 
> on wether you prefer
> - either draft a) or b)
> - both drafts (a & b) as WG items
> - or none

I prefer draft b, tcpcrypt.

> to be accepted as WG item(s).
> 
> Please write also your brief reasoning on why you made your choice.
> 
> Please note that accepting a draft is not the end of working on the 
> technical content of the draft, but it is actually the starting point 
> when the WG has full change control about the content of the draft!

tcpcrypt has the experience of a working implementation, and did work
and research the impact on middleware boxes to ensure that it would
work.  It is also a concise and complete specification.

The TLS proposal also limits the ability to make modifications as
needed to achieve the goal of this WG if it continues to need to
interoperate w/ the TLS spec/WG.

The TLS proposal still allows for implementations to do a minimal
implementation where TLS is pushed down to userland.  This option
should not be allowed as vendors will implement this, and then claim
compliance to the RFC.   Requiring a userland
implementation/modification breaks a point that this WG requires:
"The protocol must be usable by unmodified applications.".  Any spec
that allows implementations to require userland modification should be
removed from consideration.

Thanks.

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