I support this draft too (no surprise there!).  To be clear though,
although I prefer tcpcrypt, I believe either approach would be much
better than doing nothing.  

Of your three ways to proceed, I think (1) is unlikely to occur because
the difference is philosophical rather than just technical.

Mark

On Tue, Oct 20, 2015, at 05:47 PM, Mirja Kühlewind wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> please indicate if you support adoption of
> draft-bittau-tcpinc-tcpcrypt-04 as 
> a tcpinc working group item, or not, by
> 
>       Monday, Nov 2, 2015.
> 
> draft-bittau-tcpinc-tcpcrypt is one candidate for tcpinc where the first 
> version of that draft was proposed about a year ago. In the mean time
> this 
> proposal has received broad feedback. The latest version was published
> only a 
> few days ago, however, this version adapts the tcpcrypt proposal to
> tcp-eno, 
> which we adopted as a wg item a couple weeks ago, and therefore
> simplifies 
> the draft.
> 
> If you do not support adoption of this document because you think it is
> not 
> in scope for the wg or has fundamental technicals flaws and would
> therefore 
> harm the goals of the wg, it would be great if you could given some 
> reasoning/explanation with your response.
> 
> This is solely an adoption call for draft-bittau-tcpinc-tcpcrypt
> independent 
> of any other documents. If you have a personal preference for a different 
> approach that should not be a reason to reject this adoption. Forcing the
> wg 
> to make a decision has not worked previously, and even though both
> proposed 
> approaches have evolved, I do not see any indication that the wg is now
> ready 
> to make a decision. The goal of this adoption call is to figure out if
> there 
> is enough interest and energy to further follow the approach as outlined
> in 
> draft-bittau-tcpinc-tcpcrypt-04. A separate adoption call for the other 
> proposed solution will following.
> 
> This process may lead to a situation where the wg will adopt and work on
> two 
> solution approaches. This does not mean that the wg will publish two 
> (incompatible) approaches, as this would not fulfill our charter. If we
> end 
> up adopting more than one approach, I currently see three way to proceed:
> 
> 1) Both approaches (naturally) converge into one approach.
> 
> 2) We work on both approaches to get them into a (similar) state where
> the wg 
> is able to make a decision (and withdraw the other doc).
> 
> 3) We publish both approaches as different 'versions' of tcpinc that can
> be 
> negotiated in the tcp-eno handshake, where at least one of them is
> mandatory 
> to support/implement.
> 
> Thanks!
> Mirja
> 
> 
> 
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