TEACHSOC: Re: late arrivals

[Sarah Murray]

Del, you've got me thinking... Students should come to my class because I do not lecture straight from the text -- I incorporate data from the ASR; the NY Times; and other outside sources that may refute the text as often as support it.  I use film and audio clips to underscore messages from the lecture.  I give students exercises to do to get them thinking, and share personal stories to illustrate application of the material to the real world.  The exams are based on the collective course experience -- including contributions by the students themselves, as well as guest speakers.  We use on-line discussion boards for the students who do not like speaking up in class, but we refer to things that when on in class. So if they're late or absent, they miss a lot -- whether or not they care is another story!  At least some do! Sarah Murray William Paterson U of NJ ----- Original Message ----- From: Del Thomas Ph. D. To: Sarah Murray Cc: teachsoc@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 10:55 AM Subject: Re: TEACHSOC: late arrivals I have followed these posts on classroom management with curiosity because there has been no mention of the possible parallels to the late arrival to NOLA.   Nor has there been mention why reasonably bright students should attend class in the first place if they have the text.  Also why does no one use sociology to solve the problems created by the lecture hall model of education.   This model is primitive based on the adoption of crisp material.  And the resulting learning will not be student centered.  Although there will be lots of learning. From the content of the posts the definition of the situation is that students will adopt the material and give it back on exams.  There are right answers. Extra crispy of course. :-) . An aside.  We were taking our son on a college tour for accepted students.  Sophomore students reported how the University had helped them learn what was important in text and lecture. After the session I asked the dean about the role of critical thinking.  He replied that CT was valuable but there were some matters where there was only one correct answer, such as who discovered America.  Our son went to Hampshire. Learning outside the classroom box.  For the most part we are preparing students for tasks that do not yet exist..  So adapt not adopt is the goal.  Perhaps even create.  A minor modification of the classroom situation from a lecture hall to working studio.  Divide the section into small groups that will be the learning units.  Students are given the responsibility for their own learning.  A list serv is used to facilitate sharing.  You may find students using their pc's in other classes to IM or or use your class listserv.  Del Sarah Murray wrote: Thanks to all with suggestions about what to do about late arrivals.  This is only the second course I've ever taught; in my first, with 25 students, if 5 came in late (no more than 5 minutes, usually) it didn't matter so much because the lecture was in full swing and the latecomers had to scramble to keep up.   With only 9 students, 5 late ones make a really big difference in the class dynamics, especially since this class does not have the diligent middle-aged students my last course had, and lecturing to only 4 youngsters who are spaced out at opposite corners of the room just feels weird.   Anyway, I had thought it would be "punishment" enough to extend the class period in proportion to the time lapse between the official start of class and the arrival of the latecomers -- especially since the on-timers would be disgruntled that they, too, had to sacrifice part of their Saturday afternoon because of their tardy peers. (You know, like back in grade school days when we all suffered for the misconduct of a couple; this was supposed to "guilt" the transgressors into behaving.)  I'm really glad I asked for feed back from all of you, because I now see that would be unnecessarily penalizing the on-timers, and myself.   I'm going to have brief, graded and intriguing writing assignments for the first 15-20 minutes of class, and the latecomers will not be able to finish and will be graded accordingly.  On other occasions, I'll have students that are on time help me decide on future exam questions.   This past class was only our second meeting, and our  first was atypical, because I had to call them all at home and tell them to meet first at a just-scheduled political rally on campus (John Kerry was campaigning for the Dem. candidate for governor of NJ, and his speech tied in with issues of violence in our state -- the subject matter of the course.)  Anyway, the first class got underway more than an hour after its designated time  -- when the rally let out -- and they didn't have th chance to see that I'm a stickler for punctuality. (They did all show up for the second half of class.)  They could not have mistaken my displeasure this past week, though.   Thanks again, and hope I'll have good results to report next Saturday.   Sarah Murray William Paterson U of NJ