Several people asked I share the information I received from this (and a couple of other) list serves.

Here (below) is a compilation of responses to my inquiry on where our tax dollars go.  It was great to get such a variety of responses (e.g. from look in the IRS tax booklet to some very critical analysis of what that IRS booklet says!).  Thanks so much to everyone! Tina

 

 

True Majority did an interesting cartoon on defense spending recently--making a bar chart out of oreos. If you contact them, they may direct you to sources.

 

Good luck.

Sara

 

Sara L. Crawley, Ph.D.

Assistant Professor of Women's Studies and Sociology

Women's Studies Department

University of South Florida

4202 E. Fowler Avenue, FAO 011

Tampa, FL 33620-8350

ph (813) 974-0982

fax (813) 974-0336

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

 

Needless to say, Truemajority.org presents a biased perspective, but a few years ago, I showed my students Ben Cohen's Oreo Budget, which is a great illustration on how our country spends tax dollars.  I don't know if this site is updated each year or if this is outdated information; I haven't used it in awhile:

 

http://www.truemajorityaction.org/cookiebudget/

 

 

Pat Scheib

Pennsylvania College of Technology

Academic Support Services, DIF 74

One College Avenue

Williamsport, PA  17701-5799

(570) 326-3761, x7575

 

 

In Jeffrey Sachs recent book (The End of Poverty), he goes into a lot of detail about how much money (from all countries) is necessary to reduce, and then, end world poverty.  Clinton might have gotten his numbers from there.

 

   As for the U.S. budget numbers, the Statistical Abstract online should have it.

 

Evan Cooper

 

Clinton acknowledges Sachs on the show, so that's fairly likely.

 

For me, the value of the show was that it gave no credence to the idea that global poverty is a technical or financial problem--the money is there, the technology is there.  Since there always seems to be a student or two insisting that limitations in those factors WOULD prevent a solution, I may show a bit of the program to my classes.

 

 

Gerry Grzyb

 

I often have my students "google" the "federal budget" and ask them to look over the expenditures. The federal budget is public domain. When we do, we find that the budget primarily lists discretionary spending items. The budget usually has summary tables that list expenditures over the previous 5-10 years. In these, you can see that usually, about 15-20% of the discretionary spending in the federal budget is allocated to the department of defense. This DOES NOT include the routine supplemental budgets presidents send to Congress for specific projects (like Iraq and Afghanistan). If supplemental budgets were added, my "guess" is the expenditures would approach 20-25%. But that is just a guess.

 

In addition, a large chunck of change in the federal budget is what would be considered "non-discretionary spending:" things the president does not control. I do not know what that goes toward, nor what proportion of the full U.S. budget is non-discretionary. But if Clinton suggests about 30% of the budget goes toward military expenditures (i.e., direct and indirect spending), he would probably have a good understanding of expenditures, and so I would believe him.

 

As to the notion of increasing our federal expenditures on "International Aid" programs six fold (e.g., from 0.1% to 0.7%), I am sure a sixfold increase would make some sort of difference. On the other hand, I like to suggest that if we were to take about half of the expenditures on the Military for one year, and simply commit those $200 billion toward poverty in the U.S., I bet it would not hurt either.

 

Peace to all,

 

Robert

 

Robert J. Hironimus-Wendt, Ph.D.

Sociology and Anthropology

Morgan Hall 421

1 University Circle

Macomb, IL  61455-1390

phone: (309) 298-1457

fax:   (309) 298-1857

email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

Did a million people already mention this? The govt publishes a pie chart on the tax form prep booklets....of course, I don;'t have that anymore, but I bet you could find it.....

 

Here is a great website for information about the federal budget, as well as interacting with it - a fun thing to do with a class.

http://www.kowaldesign.com/budget/

Gail Murphy-Geiss

Sociology

Colorado College

 

 

I can only speak to the last part--re: federal expenditures.  Stat Abstracts often lists different expenditures; but also the Congressional Budget Office.  You have to be really careful in interpreting this information, however; and most people, including sociologists, don't realize this.  What I mean by that is that most of the budget figures include Social Security and Medicare.  HOWEVER, Social Security does NOT come out of the federal budget; it comes form a separate trust fund.  So too do many of the Medicare dollars (Medicare is a bit more complex as some of the expenditures from Part B do come from the federal budget; and the new Part D, the drug benefit, well, that's a whole other story!).  Anyway, the reason this matters is that if you include SS and Medicare--which almost everyone does--then the percent of federal budget going to defense (and interest on deficit) looks a  LOT lower (and expenditures for old people looks really high--which is another tactic used to cut money from old people).

 

If you get more info, I'd be interested in it--so please do share!

 

best,

tc

 

As I recall, the pie chart about such is on the IRS booklet or at least used to be.

 

Michael

 

 

Tina Deshotels, PhD

Assistant Professor of Sociology

Department of Sociology

326 Brewer Hall

Jacksonville State University

Jacksonville Alabama

Office Phone:  256-782-5350

Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 


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