On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Arthur Richards <[email protected]> wrote:
> The lack of this feature in Phabricator may seem like just a minor > inconvenience to some. But I believe it's been an integral part of teams > feeling like they can move fast with minimal friction in the planning > process. > I'm fully aware of its importance... (https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T129 & https://secure.phabricator.com/T4900 <--- consider lobbying upstream as well :) ) In fact, in the second link I have asked the Phabricator maintainers for a rough estimate of work, and I will ask here as well, since this is a list full of PHP/JS developers, and even some of you are familiar with the problem of "live updates". Having an estimate, we could start thinking about practical solutions. Phabricator is developed by three people, plus some contracted help, and the community. I find their performance amazing. Part of their success is to have a very good sense of their priorities, and to help whoever wants to help. Live updates for workboards is not one of their top priorities; I wonder, do we want to help? ... On the other hand, I still think that, when it comes to "go faster", it should also play a role not having to maintain totally separate spaces for project planning and bug reports. How much time and annoyance saves live updating boards versus the non-live updating? How much time and annoyance saves a single place for bugs and project work versus keeping cards, bug reports and conversations in sync? In discussions with some teams, when we reach this point, a thought is expressed in words: in fact the prospect of bringing project work to an open community space has its own time-wasting risks. In Trello and Mingle you can work quietly in the context of your team, without external disruptions. How is this going to change if we move to Phabricator? I think this is a point in many people's minds that deserves more attention. Software features will help, but there is more to solve in the social side.
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