I guess you would say we’re in the same boat.  You can block 
www.gmail.com<http://www.gmail.com>, but if they go to 
www.google.com<http://www.google.com> and click mail in the upper left they’re 
taken to mail.google.com which is what is required for google apps to work.

Curtis McKay
Network Administrator
Belleville Township High School District 201
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Bendorf
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:30 PM
To: Tech-Geeks Mailing List
Subject: [tech-geeks] Google Apps for Education but not Gmail

Is anyone allowing students to access Google Apps for Education but not 
personal Gmail accounts?


Last year we blocked  student access to personal email accounts and told them 
to use the district provided postfix/roundcube email provided.
This year we are doing GA4E but I still want to block access to generic gmail. 
I was just told by our content filtering vendor:

"This will not work.  All authentication from google, whether it be gmail, 
Google Apps or Google hosted email is all done from https://www.google.com.  We 
can only read the headers of https packets since we are not acting as the man 
in the middle for https packets.  You can either block it all or none.  Google 
by default is going to forward your email to 
https://mail.google.com/a/<domain><https://mail.google.com/a/%3cdomain%3e> and 
normal gmail email goes to https://mail.google.com/ so it's not possible to 
differentiate unless we break apart the https packet and be act as the man in 
the middle."

I now wonder if any GA4E schools have had concerns about students using 
personal/private gmail accounts and what has come of it.

--Michael T. Bendorf--
Technology Administrator
A-C Central C.U.S.D. #262
217.476.3312 ext. 2019
DID #: 217.476.6019
Cellular: 217.306.6824

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