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Hello,
On Nov 28, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2010-11-28 02:29, Michael wrote:
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Hello,
On Nov 27, 2010, at 9:55 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2010-11-27 15:29, Frank Wille wrote:
Michael wrote:
To recap, my opinion is this:
- - keys should do what the label says, no shifting things
around to
match PC layouts
Ok.
- - we need AltGr, most people will expect it to be the right
Alt key,
so that should be the (hopefully only ) exception
Already works that way, because the right Alt key has the same
keycode as
AltGr on USB keyboards.
- - left/right Command key should become left/right Meta
Already works that way, because the USB keycodes match.
Still we have no AltGr on Apple notebooks with just a left Alt.
Should ukbd.c, or even wskbd.c be hacked to treat Ctrl-Alt as
AltGr?
Although I wouldn't like it to press three keys at once, just for
a \
or [.
I don't get this whole argument. If someone feels the need to have
AltGr mapped to (for instance) the CMD key on a Apple notebook, he
can
just change it that way with xmodmap anyway. Why do we need to try
to
fiddle around with the base system itself to try and accomodate all
kind of wishes?
Trivial wishes like being able to type an @ on a german keyboard
without
having to start X and mucking with xmodmap.
have fun
Michael
Good point. wsconsctl will do the same without having to start X
though.
You'll always run into problems when you have keyboards with too few
keys though.
Yes, and we should have a halfway consistent and MI workaround for
those, which is pretty much the reason this thread exists.
Do you think we can come up with a solution (mapping) that everyone
will agree with?
I hope we can come up with something that at least works for everyone.
Maybe some good documentation on how to change and muck about with
the mappings would be better?
I think we should have something that works for more or less everyone
out of the box.
have fun
Michael
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