Again, I also dont know whether this is an appropriate forum to discuss it. If you are not related, please ignore this mail.

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I think it's not just applicable for teaching as an occupation. The problem is deep rooted.
It's more as a survival issue as well as a social issue.
As a matter of fact, values are changing rapidly in India.
Earlier, it wouldn't matter if a person is earning this much or that much. What mattered was the respect one gains in the society.
Teachers used to be respected a lot in those days.
Now the scenario has changed a lot. People are more and more becoming individualistic and social aspects aren't playing role as much as they used to be in earliar days. People make mockery of a person who still believes in those values. Money plays a bigger role socially now. The irony is, people won't go to those jobs for which they have interest in, but will choose the options which pays them well. Thats where teaching as an occupation lose the ground. It's just not teaching, but there are very few jobs in India which pays them well. As Rocky rightly indicated, excluding some of people (and I really have respect for them) who really have interest in teaching, most of them go because they dont have a choice.

These days, as education is getting more and more privatised, teaching is becoming a well paid job too. But those options are limited. Also teaching doesnt make a challanging (in terms of problems faced for a bright brain) career option as things dont get replaced with latest developments very soon.

The need is to create an environment where each and every job is respected, the way it happens in States. But in Indian social fabric that's very difficult to happen as jobs are directly related to money and money is directly related to the social stature of a person.

-ShriKant


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The following is neither really technical, nor a
question, nor an answer - it is a _long_ mail listing
my views on something related to technology, if
somebody believes this is the wrong place for this,
blow a whistle, let me know.

Hi,

Teachers have always been held in utmost reverence and
equated to god for centuries in India. <cliche> guru
devo.. </cliche>. sadly this is not the case anymore.
though people say things like what the parent mail
(below) says about admiration and teachers, it is not
the case in most engineering colleges in India.

Teachers are among the lowest paid positions, and
thereby hardly attract any talent anymore. Most people
who end up as lecturers especially freshers, are there
because they do not have another option and they need
the cash. (No offence suchu_it, I’m making a
generalization here).

If the teacher is not talented, or driven, it is hard
for him/her to command any respect from the students
they teach. they employ various methods to earn it,
I’ve seen the use of force and screaming - all my math
teachers, I’ve seen them become buddies with students
and smoking/drinking with them... all in all the
teacher-student relation does not remain the same
anymore.

in sharp contrast, I am currently in the US and
teachers here are very different, most of them are
driven individuals and passionate about what they do,
money is not objective no 1. But then it also happens
that they end up co-founding companies with their
students and becoming honorary members of boards of
companies and money does not really cease to flow.

I have a friend who is a brilliant student and a very
good thinker. He is completing his masters soon and is
planning going back to India and joining the
acadamicia. He has a vision for the program he is
planning to join, and is currently submitting project
proposals for award of funds in the tune of 100,000
USD for robotics projects in India. But when his
parents heard about it, they started fighting him
tooth and nail. for a good student to become a teacher
is a bad thing to do?

as the quality of teachers and teaching goes down in
India the quality of the technically trained workforce
graduating from these places goes down too. And that
will reflect on the quality of the work we put out.

I’m not sure if there is an easy solution.

Rocky




--- "Abinanthan.B" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> hi,
> Its pleasing to hear that someone is interested in
> teaching!! I always
> admire on the teachers. India is not starving for IT
> experts but always for
> good teachers.
> If ur looking for a career where the earnings can be
> more then i wud suggest
> u to switch into development or else. But u will
> never get a satisfaction as
> in teaching.
>
> All the best
> Regards
> Abinanthan B
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: 25/04/2005 14:30
> Subject: Re: [tech4all] Hello and
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>
> hi !welcoem to the group!
>
> its gud tht u started to work in a college rather
> than waiting  4 a
> gud opportunity to knock ur  doors!
>
> well i wud suggest do ur Mtech fullfledged , there
> always a gud career
> 4 ppl with sound techinical knowledge!
>
> sinceu say u r of with IT background ,a  masters wud
> really help u to
> get into a top IT firm in India!
>
> u dont even need to bother abt career in IT being in
> India since we
> hav  gud  part of the Major IT giant Industries here
> !
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> cheer up ,do ur Mtech well,teach ut students well
> ,donts forget u r
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