tl;dr: if you will be using cryptech designs to make real products, would you prefer freeware schematic/layout software or professional level tools?
the current schmatic in review [0] is done using eagle [1], a $500 package (for multi-sheet multi-layer) at our scale of use. this choice was made for a number of reasons: o there is no better open source tool-set, and our design engineers think Eagle is the best low-cost chouce :( o we could easily afford it, but more important o we thought that it would widen the community using cryptech designs as hackers and pros would be able to adapt the designs usin tools affordable by all. but, as we move from schematic to layout, our engineers are feeling a bit of strain. "it is pretty limited, and it may be difficult do design Alpha with it, because even the simplest instrument for pin swapping doesn't work very well :(" and "A rough analogy of our situation is that we have a thousand of screws in our product. They can be cross-threaded with a very cheap hand screw driver, that nearly everyone has at home, but it will take a very long time, because the instrument itself is rather primitive. This can also be done easily with a powered screwdriver, but people will have to buy it. I think, companies are refusing to work in EAGLE, because it would be tedious for their designers, like why use inconvenient instrument, when you can use a better tool to accomplish the same task faster?" on the other hand "What software we use have different ramifications for different potential downstream users of our designs." "If we ... go with Eagle, we better serve the long tail of hobbyists and people with few resources." For large potential users (e.g. big companies) ... this is indifferent - they would re-do our schematics/layout anyway." if we move to a more pro tool-set, there is a small chance we could do the layout in-house, giving us more control and maybe saving money. but we do not have the time to do it in eagle, so we will have to go out of house, and a pro design house may not use eagle anyway. randy [0] https://lists.cryptech.is/archives/tech/2015-December/002382.html https://lists.cryptech.is/archives/tech/2016-January/002406.html [1] http://www.cadsoftusa.com/eagle-pcb-design-software/ _______________________________________________ Tech mailing list Tech@cryptech.is https://lists.cryptech.is/listinfo/tech