On Tue, Jul 11, 2006 at 05:48:44PM +0100, Michael Rogers wrote:
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> Matthew Toseland wrote:
> >> Can it be solved at all, without knowing the public keys of all nodes
> >> (which would essentially turn Freenet into I2P)? How can you ever be
> >> sure that your insert really reached the node responsible for location
> >> 0.123456789?
> > 
> > You ask another node to fetch the data. Is that a problem?
> 
> It depends on the probability of your request passing through the same
> node that faked the insert, which can just return the data as if it had
> inserted it. Random audits *might* work, but as usual I'd like to see
> some simulations first. ;-)

So you have a flag to have it ignore the first few hops or something?
> 
> > RequestSucceeded? For a simple request they'd have to return DNF, RNF,
> > or the actual data.
> 
> Sorry, I'm talking about a request to insert data - am I using the wrong
> terminology? People sometimes seem to use request to mean a request for
> data, and sometimes it means a request to either insert or retrieve data.

Ah ok. That's InsertReply.
> 
> What I mean is that when you ask a peer to insert some data, it could
> claim to have done so without doing so. Obviously requests for data are
> verifiable.
> 
> > Well, I don't think Ian will let me implement shared folders, you'll
> > need to find somebody else to do it.
> 
> I'll happily work on it once the SoC work is finished.

:)

That'll be a while.
> 
> > Oh and your friends and family will never use freenet, they'll be put
> > off by all the (child, and not britney) porn.
> 
> There's no child porn in my blog... in fact if you could keep a straight
> face for long enough you could probably sell darknets as the ultimate
> walled garden: "it's like an internet where you can't talk to strangers
> (well OK you can, but the latency's horrible)". ;-)

LOL. Actually I have some serious ideas about that, (collaborative self
censorship over darknet) which were documented on the old wiki, but it got
lost, and when I talked about them people got really mad. :) I've moved
on a bit with them since the thread on tech.
> 
> Cheers,
> Michael
-- 
Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
Freenet Project Official Codemonkey - http://freenetproject.org/
ICTHUS - Nothing is impossible. Our Boss says so.
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