On Fri, Sep 01, 2006 at 12:37:33AM -0700, Ian Clarke wrote:
> On 31 Aug 2006, at 16:11, Ken Snider wrote:
> >Matthew Toseland wrote:
> >>I believe that it is expedient, provided that we get a significant
> >>movement from opennet to darknet. I am not yet sure how we will  
> >>ensure
> >>that; increased security may be enough, but everyone knows  
> >>(wrongly but
> >>instinctively) that opennet is more secure, so ...
> >
> >I think you'll need some form of "incentive" to be on darknet.
> 
> If the security of knowing that strangers don't know you are part of  
> the network isn't sufficient, then I don't know what is. 

It's not just that. It's being vulnerable to total strangers; opennet is
significantly less secure than darknet even if it's not prohibited as
such.

> I certainly  
> don't think that creating "artificial" incentives, essentially  
> gimmicks, to motivate people to use darknet rather than opennet, is a  
> good strategy.
> 
> The basic rule of free software is that first and foremost, the  
> software serves the user's needs.  If your software doesn't serve the  
> user's needs, then it will be forked and someone else will provide  
> what user's want with a modified version of your software.  If most  
> user's don't want or need darknet, then most users won't use it.  Any  
> effort to fight this reality is effort wasted.  Spending  
> implementation time on features that are artificially restricted to  
> darknet users as a gimmick to motivate use of the darknet is  
> implementation time wasted (you may not be suggesting that, but  
> others have).

Features which are artificially restricted to darknet, such as?
> 
> If only 5% of users feel they need to be on the darknet, and 5% of  
> users therefore run darknet nodes, and the other 95% are on the  
> opennet, then we should be happy, because we are serving the user's  
> needs.  Sure, if we think it would be in user's interests for this  
> percentage to be higher, then we can try to educate people, but we  
> shouldn't try to corral them into the behavior we want using  
> gimmicks, or delaying or simply not implementing features that users  
> are demanding.
> 
> Ian.
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Matthew J Toseland - toad at amphibian.dyndns.org
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