On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Matthew Toseland<toad at amphibian.dyndns.org> wrote: > On Tuesday 16 June 2009 22:17:44 Evan Daniel wrote: >> >> > >> >> > Agreed. The closest thing we have at the moment is Thingamablog. It >> >> > doesn't have a forum. >> >> >> >> >> >> Third, Twitter seems to be a very popular way to communicate there. >> >> >> How hard would it be to create a Twitter equivalent over Freenet? ?How >> >> >> low could the latency be? ?The 160 character limit on messages is >> >> >> probably helpful here -- along with some metadata and a couple links >> >> >> to other tweets, it should all fit in a single 1KiB SSK. ?As always, >> >> >> searching and spam resistance are potential problems. >> >> > >> >> > Page-embedded forums could be close IMHO. Of course they would be >> >> > slowish. >> >> >> >> Could something designed specifically as a twitter replacement be >> >> faster? ?Of course, properly cloning twitter requires the ability to >> >> search on hashtags, which is probably nontrivial. >> > >> > No, because of spam. IMHO the fundamental design issue is spam. However, >> > it doesn't have to be hideously slow. >> >> Well, we've already established that I think spam is a more tractable >> problem than some people do :) >> >> It would use the same WoT plugin as Freetalk, right? ?Shouldn't the >> spam problem be equally tractable (or intractable) for Freetalk and a >> twitter clone? > > Sure. And equally slow with outbox polling. But IMHO outbox polling can be > fairly fast even now (with ULPRs), and with passive requests could be very > fast. > > What is the difference between a Twitter clone and a blog wizard with an > embedded Freetalk forum?
A tweet fits in an SSK. There is no CHK redirect, so only one fetch is required. One fetch instead of two means improved latency. Also, the ULPRs work on the SSK that was polled for, but not the CHK it redirects to, right? Also, twitter is searchable on hashtags, and doesn't partition the conversation in the way that individual forums per freesite does. And lastly, the barrier to entry on twitter is even lower than on a blog clone. I have some ideas about how to make it work, but they need a bit more fleshing out. More thoughts later. Evan Daniel
