On Fri, Feb 24, 2012 at 05:59:41PM -0500, Will Dennis wrote:
> Careful... The "regular" Dell PowerConnect switches (35xx, 55xx, 80xx
> etc.) != Dell Force10. The PowerConnect line is made of "merchant
> silicon" (Broadcomm, SuperMicro reference, etc.) and is nowhere near the
> performance or reliability of the Force10 line. Of course, it doesn't
> cost Force10 money either... The cheapest Force10 switch I see on the
> Dell site we use (Dell Premier) is $4,116 for a Force10 S25N
> (24x10/100/1000 copper, 4xSFP.) We do use the PowerConnect line in some
> non-critical applications (mostly research clusters.) The are fine for
> the price.

That's funny;  on ebay, the force10 stuff is about the cheapest you can 
go.  you can get 24 port 10G (!) force10 switches on ebay for $2200
(4x XFP ports and 20  cx4 ports)   I have not ordered any of these, 
though I'm considering it.

I also have 2x SA-01-GE48T switches that I got for $300 on ebay.   
Another $400 and you can put in 2 10G capable xfp ports in back (I 
think; I have not tried.)

On the other hand, the force10 documentation is behind a paywall.
If you call force10 and ask to pay for firmware updates or even just 
access to the documentation and tell them it is a used switch, they 
act like you told them you stole it.  Mine are not in production yet, 
in part because I am uncomfortable with the fact that I don't have 
firmware, but mostly because I don't have the documentation.  

I'm interested to hear that force10 is considered good, when they
appear to be the cheapest available used switches of their speed on 
ebay. I wonder if the price reflects the difficulty of obtaining 
documentation. 

I do need to upgrade my switching systems to 10G;  I'm currently
waffling between this force10 gear and HP Procurve chassis switches, for
which I can get firmware and documentation, but for which I have to
pay rather more.  (In my price range, it's used either way.)
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