Edward Ned Harvey wrote:
> Ummm...   Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're saying, because the way I
> got it, you're not making any sense.  You're saying to do sector-by-sector,
> but you're also saying Acronis knows which blocks are unused and will skip
> them.
> 
> The point of the "sector by sector" option is to tell Acronis, "I don't want
> you to think about or care about NTFS or anything.  Eliminate all your
> intelligence, and simply copy every byte from the device."  This means "I
> want you to backup unused space," and it means "Even if there's an unknown
> filesystem in there, which is not NTFS or anything you recognize, back it up
> anyway, every single byte."
> 
> Normally a sector-by-sector backup is only done for unknown filesystems, or
> filesystems which are suspected of corruption, or if you have some reason
> you think there's valuable information stored in the unused space.  For
> example, if a virus did a quick format on your hard drive ... All the data
> still exists, but the filesystem is gone so you can't access any of it.  So
> then you would want some utility to scan all the bits, saying "these blocks
> look like they might be a jpg image ... and these blocks look like they
> might be a word doc ..." and so on, attempting to reconstruct your deleted
> files.  If you're paranoid, you might do a sector-by-sector backup of the
> disk before you allow any utility in the world to start reading from it or
> working on it.

Sorry, you are right... I was getting a couple of options mixed up.
http://www.acronis.com/backup-recovery/comparison.html

I am really talking about the "Block level image backup", not the 
"Sector-by-sector backup".

I used to be a developer at a small company (that went under), that made 
an appliance that was used for the target for the backup files.  We had
automation to encrypt and transfer the .tib files to a secured 
datacenter as a DR service for the SMB market.

We had a client side piece that was a wrapper around Acronis.

Since this was designed for DR with bare metal restore, we used block 
level backups.

>> hrm... I guess baring finding a copy utility that understands sparse
>> files,
>> you would be left with the restore partition option.
>>
>> Have you tried robocopy to copy from the mounted .tib? (I haven't tried
>> it.)
> 
> There are plenty of copy utilities that recognize sparse files.  You can "cp
> --sparse=always" or something like that ... and you can "tar cf - somefile |
> (cd /destination ; tar xf - --sparse)" and various other incantations ...
> 
> Yes, I tried this.  Again, "ask me how I know."  :-(  At one point, I did in
> fact restore a 50G file that was supposed to be sparse, just to get one tiny
> txt file out of it.  It only took overnight.
> 
> However, when you mount a TIB file, it does not become a drive letter.  You
> can't browse there with cygwin, or winzip, or any other application.  The
> TIB mounter is a Windows Explorer extension, so only WE is able to browse
> through the image to grab things out.  WE is the weak point here ... Simply
> dragging and dropping a file is your only option, and that doesn't do
> sparse.
> 

Ya, I haven't messed with this side much.  Though now there are 
utilities that will convert .tib into virtual drives. (.vhd, .vmdk,...)

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