david++;

Monitoring != Trending.  Yes, Nagios (Zenoss, Zabbix, Groundworks,
Opsview, etc) can be made to cough up performance data during checks.
Yes, $job gathers that and retains + plots.  But Ive yet to encounter
an install where such tools are 1:1 substitute for a genuine trending
tools (Orca, Munin, Cacti, etc).  My $0.02 ...

NB: Splunk seems like a bananas means to correlate data like response
time to services based on client requests unless youre sourcing server
and client data + munging them together _or_ including
response/process time in server log data (which Im not sure can be the
canonical source for UX for frontends, etc).  Am I being dense here?
Not hip to the Splunk special sauce?  :)

-nick

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 7:51 PM,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, Matt Lawrence wrote:
>
>> I need to deploy some sort of performance monitoring tools across a few
>> hundred systems.  In addition to the usual system performance stats, I
>> would like to find a set of tools that will easily allow me to collect and
>> display various application level information.  These are systems doing
>> lots of real time transaction processing, so being able to see the graphs
>> of what the applications are doing in sync with the system graphs would be
>> a very good thing.
>>
>> The management structure here is that I am on the sysadmin team which does
>> not do anything with the applications.  So, being able to integrate the
>> data collection will make my life easier and make the application support
>> folks happier.
>
> one thing that you need to think about is what you mean by 'monitoring',
> there are two branches, and usually tools that do one well don't do the
> other as well.
>
> the first branch is problem detection.
>
> This is checking if something is out of spec and alerting on it.
>
> Nagios is a very popular tool for this branch
>
> this includes doing things like a df to see if your disk is full past a
> threshold, or doing a http request to your application to see if it
> responds with the correct page (and/or responds within the allowed
> deadline)
>
>
>
> the second brand is trending/historical data
>
> This is recording data points and (usually) generating graphs of the data
> for analysis.
>
> rrdtool (the engine that powers MRTG) is a really good tool for this.
>
>
> David Lang
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