> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 01:08, Theo de Raadt <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I am going to revisit this.
> >
> >> I do believe i386/amd64 RAMDISKs are destined to more or
> >> less mainstream hardware and ISA CGA, MDA, EGA, HGA
> >> stuff isn't there anymore.
> >>
> >> So on i386 RAMDISK (like amd64 one), I suggest to remove
> >>
> >> pcdisplay0 at isa?
> >> wsdisplay*    at pcdisplay?
> >
> > This breaks machines that really do exist out there.
> >
> > 2200    44      88      2332    91c     GENERIC/pcdisplay.o
> > 135     1064    0       1199    4af     GENERIC/pcdisplay_chars.o
> > 907     0       0       907     38b     GENERIC/pcdisplay_subr.o
> >
> >> sys/arch/i386/conf/RAMDISK:
> >>
> >> pckbc0                at isa?                 # PC keyboard controller
> >> pckbd*                at pckbc?               # PC keyboard
> >> wskbd*                at pckbd? mux 1
> >> vga0          at isa?
> >> vga*          at pci?
> >> pcdisplay0    at isa?                 # CGA, MDA, EGA, HGA
> >> wsdisplay*    at vga?
> >> wsdisplay*    at pcdisplay?
> >
> > This breaks 99% of i386 machines, ie. every machine that has either
> > a pci vga display or a non-usb keyboard.
> >
> >> sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK:
> >>
> >> pckbc0                at isa?         # PC keyboard controller
> >> pckbd*                at pckbc?       # PC keyboard
> >> wskbd*                at pckbd? mux 1
> >> vga0          at isa?
> >> vga*          at pci?
> >> wsdisplay*    at vga?
> >
> > This breaks 99% of amd64 machines, ie. every machine that has either
> > a pci vga display or a non-usb keyboard.
> 
> Well, I'm a bit disappointed.
> 
> 1.49 of sys/arch/amd64/conf/RAMDISK does not contain
> pcdisplay0.
> 
> > In the last week alone, *two* people mailed in dmesg's that have isa
> > vga adapters.  You are living in a fantasy if you think that
> > restricting hardware support like that helps anyone.
> 
> I told about removing pcdisplay0 at isa?, not vga0 at isa?

Your mail was not explicit.  It suggested we remove other things too.

> Searching over bugs@ mail archives shows no fresh
> dmesgs with pcdisplay0.

bugs@ is not the dmesglog.  The private dmesglog people send have
machines which have pre-vga cards.

You think we should simply stop supporting those.  Then those people
would have to run something else.  Or throw them out.

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