Mark Kettenis <mark.kette...@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Like I asked on icb, why do we need a knob for this at all?

I don't need one.  I'd be just as happy to simply rip out
machdep.kbdreset where it's currently abused for that purpose.

* If you press one of these soft power buttons a little bit longer,
  they typically shut off the power in hardware anyway.
* Mischievous people can simply pull the cord.
* If you run a kiosk application built into a wall, you don't expose a
  power button.

That leaves "avoid shutdown by accidentally brushing against the
button", but that isn't an issue in practice.  Looking at pictures
of the Ultra 5, I don't see how Miod could press that by accident.
I once accidentally powered off my Blade 100 while leaning over it
but I think that was with the power button shutdown disabled, so
there.

For the Zaurus, a knob may make sense, I don't know.

-- 
Christian "naddy" Weisgerber                          na...@mips.inka.de

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