On 2 May 2014 13:24, Bob Beck <b...@obtuse.com> wrote: > Honestly folks, I'm sick of the attitude of "The future is nigh, the > mystic portal awaits! V6 is coming!" as an excuse for > we *MUST* change things related to this. > > We've been hearing the mystic portal awaits for 15 years - and yet > MANY of us in MANY parts of the world still can not > get reasonable v6 connectivity - or it's is substantially worse than > v4 for what we normally do. It's not our fault, > our providers are useless. > > I have no problem with having changes to make V6 more usable. but > here's what I have a problem with. > > 1) Here is wonderful V6 diff - many standards idiots of the same type > that designed V6 say this is good. Can you > show me a down side? > > My answer to this is simple. No.. We've been bit before. You want me > to pay attention to this discussion and encourage > that a diff goes in do this instead: > > 2) Here is a diff that makes V6 better - I'm not talking to you about > the standards bodies related to V6 because they are all > ivory tower idiots, but it *does* make things better because I've > tested it under *these* v6 scenarios and hit helps *AND* I tested it > under the default and these normal scenarios WITH ONLY V4, and NOTHING > SLOWED DOWN OR GOT FUCKED UP. > > Having now experienced more than enough "show me a down side" V6 diffs > in the tree over the years, I do not want to > "show a down side" - PROVE TO ME THERE ISN'T ONE, or go away. >
Careful Bob, or you will be lumped in with Theo and I as roadblocks to IPv6 adoption! .... Ken > > > > > > > On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 10:53 AM, Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas > <j...@wxcvbn.org> wrote: >> Paul de Weerd <we...@weirdnet.nl> writes: >> >>> On Fri, May 02, 2014 at 05:35:13PM +0200, Jérémie Courrèges-Anglas wrote: >>> | > If you're running on a host without IPv6, why would you want >>> | > getaddrinfo() to return any IPv6 results? What good would it do to you? >>> | >>> | What's a regular OpenBSD host with no IPv6? I'd assume that it is >>> | a host that can perform IPv6 connections to ::1 / localhost and reach >>> | its neighbors through link-local addresses. >>> >>> Why would you expect to be able to reach your neighbors through >>> link-local addresses if you have "no IPv6" (which I take to mean 'no >>> *configured* IPv6', please correct me if I'm wrong here)? >> >> I don't make a big difference between automatically or "manually" >> configured addresses. They're here and supposed to be usable for >> whatever purpose, limited only by their intrinsic limitations. >> >>> I believe your expectation here is wrong (although it is the current >>> state of IPv6 on OpenBSD). Can you explain why you disagree? >> >> Not really, I'm puzzled by your question. It works and has always >> worked but I shouldn't expect them to work... >> >>> (sorry to hijack the thread, your remark piqued my interest) >>> >>> Paul 'WEiRD' de Weerd >> >> -- >> jca | PGP : 0x1524E7EE / 5135 92C1 AD36 5293 2BDF DDCC 0DFA 74AE 1524 E7EE >> >
