On Thu, October 25, 2018 2:24 am, Raf Czlonka wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 07:11:47AM BST, Gilles Chehade wrote:
>>
>> smtpd will _always_ display a 'starttls' log line when the TLS channel
>> starts,
>> disregarding if TLS was started at connect time (smtps) or within the
>> protocol
>> (smtp+tls, or even smtp since it does opportunistic tls).
>>
>
> I guess this is the confusing bit - seeing 'starttls' in the log
> file and thinking 'STARTTLS', i.e. the "TLS upgrade".
>
> R.
>

Yes, I mistakenly assumed that where it didn't log "starttls" it wasn't
using STARTTLS and therefore using TLS and where it did log "starttls"
meant it was using STARTTLS.  Silly me. :P

Unfortunatly I also didn't know which my ISP was actually using since
before, with secure:// it would try both and always sent mail.  I should
have figured out what I was dealing with first.

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