On Sun, Feb 09, 2020 at 01:37:33PM +0000, Jason McIntyre wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 09, 2020 at 02:27:23PM +0100, Marc Espie wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 09, 2020 at 12:41:43AM +0100, Sebastian Benoit wrote:
> > > Ingo Schwarze([email protected]) on 2020.02.09 00:33:06 +0100:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > Jason McIntyre wrote on Sat, Feb 08, 2020 at 10:15:08PM +0000:
> > > > 
> > > > > - i'm ok with adding the path to these files to a FILES section
> > > > 
> > > > So, here is a specific patch for bgpf.conf(5) and bgpd(8) such
> > > > that we can agree on a general direction for one case where
> > > > the example file is particularly important.
> > > > 
> > > > Once the direction is agreed, applying it to the relatively
> > > > small number of other cases is likely not difficult.
> > > > 
> > > > OK?
> > > >   Ingo
> > > 
> > > I'm not against this as it only adds to the manpage, but an
> > > alternative could be to just tell users (in afterboot(8)?) that there is
> > > /etc/examples for them to look at and see whats there?
> > > 
> > > Otherwise ok.
> > 
> > I still think it's a good idea to put it in afterboot(8).
> > That was the patch I sent to a few people that obviously triggered Ingo.
> > 
> > As for /etc/examples, I still think that directory has merits.
> > It's WAY easier to copy an example file and uncomment/tweak the parts you
> > need while skimming through the manpage than creating one from scratch.
> > 
> > Also, cut&paste from an EXAMPLE in the manpage is distasteful.
> > 
> > Yeah, it's more info that has to be kept in synch. So what ? It's still
> > useful, so it should stay.
> > 
> > Here's an updated version, taking Theo's remarks into account.
> > 
> 
> hi. i'm fine with your text, but it would be better placed in the
> section "Daemons" (yes i'm aware not all the files are for daemons)
> or a new section in "FURTHER CHANGES".
> 
> jmc

Sorry, I saw your message a bit late.

I don't think it's a good idea.  Specifically, that text should come
in as early as possible.

"FURTHER CHANGES" sound like a section near the end.
"Daemons" also comes very late in the game
(after ntpd, after sysctl.conf, which do have /etc/examples scripts)

also, you should update, as your email setup is broken.
any direct email to you have come back with
<forwarder address redacted>: 553 ORCPT address syntax error

which according to Stuart, has been fixed in recent snaps.

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