În 3 iulie 2020 20:57:52 EEST, Mark Kettenis <mark.kette...@xs4all.nl> a scris:
>> Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2020 12:42:58 -0500
>> From: Scott Cheloha <scottchel...@gmail.com>
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 03, 2020 at 02:34:20PM +0300, Paul Irofti wrote:
>> > On 2020-07-03 00:40, Scott Cheloha wrote:
>> > > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 04:53:14PM +0300, Paul Irofti wrote:
>> > > > On Wed, Jun 24, 2020 at 11:53:23AM +0200, Robert Nagy wrote:
>> > > > > On 22/06/20 19:12 +0300, Paul Irofti wrote:
>> > > > > > New iteration:
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > >    - ps_timekeep should not coredump, pointed by deraadt@
>> > > > > >    - set ps_timekeep to 0 before user uvm_map for
>randomization
>> > > > > >    - map timekeep before fixup. confirmed by naddy@ that it
>fixes NULL init
>> > > > > >    - initialize va. clarified by kettenis@
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > How's the magical max skew value research going? Do we have
>a value yet?
>> > > > > > 
>> > > > > > Paul
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > I think we should pick 100 for now and then we can adjust it
>later if needed.
>> > > > > 
>> > > > > Of course this depends on kettenis' lfence diff so that amd
>ryzen tsc is sane.
>> > > > 
>> > > > I looked at dmesglog and the reported values are indeed small.
>99 was
>> > > > the highest on an Atom. I updated the diff to 100. I think we
>can adapt
>> > > > this as we get more reports (if ever).
>> > > > 
>> > > > OK?
>> > > 
>> > > One thing...
>> > > 
>> > > > diff --git lib/libc/arch/amd64/gen/usertc.c
>lib/libc/arch/amd64/gen/usertc.c
>> > > > new file mode 100644
>> > > > index 00000000000..56016c8eca1
>> > > > --- /dev/null
>> > > > +++ lib/libc/arch/amd64/gen/usertc.c
>> > > > @@ -0,0 +1,41 @@
>> > > > +/*    $OpenBSD$ */
>> > > > +/*
>> > > > + * Copyright (c) 2020 Paul Irofti <p...@irofti.net>
>> > > > + *
>> > > > + * Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this
>software for any
>> > > > + * purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided
>that the above
>> > > > + * copyright notice and this permission notice appear in all
>copies.
>> > > > + *
>> > > > + * THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND THE AUTHOR DISCLAIMS
>ALL WARRANTIES
>> > > > + * WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED
>WARRANTIES OF
>> > > > + * MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR
>BE LIABLE FOR
>> > > > + * ANY SPECIAL, DIRECT, INDIRECT, OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES OR
>ANY DAMAGES
>> > > > + * WHATSOEVER RESULTING FROM LOSS OF USE, DATA OR PROFITS,
>WHETHER IN AN
>> > > > + * ACTION OF CONTRACT, NEGLIGENCE OR OTHER TORTIOUS ACTION,
>ARISING OUT OF
>> > > > + * OR IN CONNECTION WITH THE USE OR PERFORMANCE OF THIS
>SOFTWARE.
>> > > > + */
>> > > > +
>> > > > +#include <sys/types.h>
>> > > > +#include <sys/timetc.h>
>> > > > +
>> > > > +static inline u_int
>> > > > +rdtsc(void)
>> > > > +{
>> > > > +      uint32_t hi, lo;
>> > > > +      asm volatile("rdtsc" : "=a"(lo), "=d"(hi));
>> > > > +      return ((uint64_t)lo)|(((uint64_t)hi)<<32);
>> > > > +}
>> > > 
>> > > We need to lfence this.
>> > 
>> > In userland too? Why?
>> 
>> I was under the impression kettenis@ had added an lfence to the
>kernel
>> TSC's tc_get_timecount(), but I was mistaken.
>> 
>> We can deal with that separately.
>
>I just committed a diff that adds the LFENCE everywhere where we are
>measuring a time interval to do some sort of calibration.  I think
>that should get the skew down under 100 cycles on all reasonable
>amd64 machines.

Thank you very much for that, Mark!

>I did not add the LFENCE to tc_get_timecount() itself.  We probably
>should, but in the past some networking folks complained about slow
>timecounters affecting network performance, so I wanted confirmation
>that this didn't cause problems.

Right. I think we should decide that separately from this diff. As it is the 
diff is well tested. 

Paul

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