Matthieu Herrb <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 09:17:24AM -0600, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > Marcus Glocker <[email protected]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Instead of introducing the CLI parameter controls in video(1), we could
> > > introduce videoctl(1) in base, same as we have with audioctl(1).  This
> > > also gives us the possibility to only display the current video
> > > parameters.
> > 
> > I must have missed something.  Why does it need to be a seperate comment.
> > Won't this produce confusion?  Why can video do this?
> > 
> > Is it really correct for the video hardware to have persistant settings?
> > Would it not be better if the required mode was always commanded when
> > a video is being recorded?
> 
> I've not followed UVC hardware too closely; it seems that some of the
> cameras are always fully automatically adjusting their parameters,
> while others allow for manual setting that remains between device
> open().
> 
> And some of the controls are not available when video(4) is used from
> a browser (for conferencing).
> 
> On a 2nd thought having that integrated with video(1) allows to
> control the values with visual feedback so it makes sense to keep only
> one program. But ihmo it would be more user friendly if the command
> line syntax was more regular with audio or wscons control programs.

My primary concern is about a user changing settings which then persist
past close.

Upon re-open, how do they know what mode they are in?

I understand the default mode for a camera might not be nice.  But at
least it is a default.  If the previous use of the camera put it into
a nasty mode, does this mean all new users must first force default?

Now you don't know what mode it is in.  As a result, you must *always*
demand change into a specific mode.  Rather than making things simpler,
doesn't use of a camera become potentially more complicated?

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