On 2020/12/15 17:19, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> Stuart Henderson <s...@spacehopper.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 2020/12/15 16:33, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > > Jan Klemkow <j.klem...@wemelug.de> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 03:43:38PM -0700, Theo de Raadt wrote:
> > > > > Jan Klemkow <j.klem...@wemelug.de> wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > for frequent performance test it would be nice to just start 
> > > > > > tcpbench
> > > > > > as a regular service.  tcpbench gets an extra user and group with 
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > diff and is already pledged to "stdio".  Thus, there should be no
> > > > > > security risk to do this even in hostile environments.
> > > > > 
> > > > > You're kidding me.  If someone starts this in a hostile environment, 
> > > > > their
> > > > > network/host will be flattened.
> > > > 
> > > > You are right, someone can use this, to flood a link.  But, you can
> > > > flood someones link with traffic anyway, as botnets do it, or?
> > > 
> > > It is not the same at all, because tcpbench will attempt to flow maximum
> > > traffic in both directions.  No other service has that behaviour.
> > > 
> > 
> > -s just throws the packets away, it does not transmit
> 
> Regardless, I still don't think it makes any sense placing a debugging
> feature into the hands of people who don't know what they are doing.
> 

agreed

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