Dave Voutila writes:

> Mike Larkin writes:
>
>> On Wed, Apr 07, 2021 at 12:22:23AM +0200, Thomas L. wrote:
>>> On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 14:28:09 -0700
>>> Mike Larkin <mlar...@nested.page> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Tue, Apr 06, 2021 at 09:15:10PM +0200, Thomas L. wrote:
>>> > > On Tue, 6 Apr 2021 11:11:01 -0700
>>> > > Mike Larkin <mlar...@nested.page> wrote:
>>> > > > Anything in the host's dmesg?
>>> > >
>>> >
>>> > *host* dmesg. I think you misread what I was after...
>>>
>>> The dmesg of the host was already attached to the first mail below the
>>> vm.conf (I mistakenly called the host hypervisor, which I realize now is
>>> not accurate). I figured since it was already attached, that
>>> you must mean the VM, compounding the confusion ...
>>>
>>> Kind regards,
>>>
>>> Thomas
>>>
>>
>> I see.
>>
>> You'll probably need to build a kernel with VMM_DEBUG and save that output 
>> and
>> send it to me once a VM crashes. Note: it will generate a lot of output and
>> probably make things somewhat slower.
>>
>> -ml
>
> Thomas: I looked at your host dmesg and your provided vm.conf. It looks
> like 11 vm's with the default 512M memory and one (minecraft) with
> 8G. Your host seems to have only 16GB of memory, some of which is
> probably unavailable as it's used by the integrated gpu. I'm wondering
> if you are effectively oversusbcribing your memory here.
>
> I know we currently don't support swapping guest memory out, but not
> sure what happens if we don't have the physical memory to fault a page
> in and wire it.

Looked a bit further and since your host is running 6.8 it doesn't have
wiring memory logic, but I'd still be cautious about oversubscribing
memory.

>
> Even without a custom kernel with VMM_DEBUG, if it's a uvm_fault issue
> you should see a message in the kernel buffer. Something like:
>
>   vmx_fault_page: uvm_fault returns N, GPA=0x...., rip=0x....
>

You can also run vmd(8) with debug logging (-v or -vv) and maybe capture
these events. Like with vmm(4) logging, it can be excessively verbose.

> mlarkin: thoughts on my hypothesis? Am I wildly off course?
>
> -dv

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