Hello Dane and all I'm lead to belief that they are actually MSAA controls which, They say, Window-Eyes and JFW and the rest of the bunch should pick up without a problem. But based on what we saw when testing with the then latest version of Thunderbird and the then latest version of Window-Eyes, there where some pretty horrendous issues.
I'm told also now that there is what GW now calls an "App" on their website that you can use to use Window-Eyes and Thunderbird get along together. But really; you shouldn't have to muck around with scripting and apps just to make a strait forward piece of software wok; and I think GW Micro should be ashamed of themselves. Possibly they've hard fix the problem, just as they appear to have hard-broken it. Thunderbird used to work so I am told. On the same sort of subject I wonder which is the best browser to use these days; Internet Explorer version 9.0, FireFox version 6.0 or even Google Chrome? I am hearing good things about Google Chrome but then again, the very name of Google gives me the shivers. I know what their mail service is like. The description of "Windows" is perfectly correct, they are Windows. Lynne On 11 Oct 2011, at 15:31, Dane Trethowan wrote: • Yep, Thunderbird is an absolute pain in the behind to use with Window-Eyes, I use NVDA as my Screen Reading solution of choice these days and Thunderbird has done and probably always will work very well with NVDA and why shouldn't it as Thunderbird uses standard controls which any Screen Reading solution should be able to access thus its a bit of a blot on the part of GW Micro that WE has trouble. • I'm not saying that NVDA is totally unusable with WE, there are a few things one can do but most users would be extremely annoyed in a few seconds <smile>. • Interface is perfectly simple, you toggle between panes of Thunderbird with the f6 key, for example if you set Thunderbird to start displaying the "In Box", pressing f6 brings up the tree view of mailboxes, pressing it again brings up the table of messages associated with the particular mailbox you have selected, pressing f6 again brings up any other window you have open and so on through the cycle. • You can also use tab to move about. Remember that Thunderbird is extremely configurable when it comes to windows and tabs so you could for example configure everything to open in one window which I don't personally recommend or you could configure everything to open in separate windows, for example 1 window with an open message, another Window with the contents of a mailbox displaying and so on. Perhaps "Windows" is a bit of a miss leading description here because you use alt-Tab to toggle between them like applications if you will. On 12/10/2011, at 12:48 AM, Gordon Smith wrote: > Hi all > > This is something which I personally have my own thoughts on but I wanted to > see what other people in the group think before I make a decision. It's > possible that I'm overlooking something. > > We want a reliable, easy-to-use email and messaging solution for our NetBook. > We're hoping that we'll be able to use this portably as well as here at > home. So, here we go. > > We are looking for an easy-to-use and configure, reliable suite of programmes > for use under Windows 7 for E-Mail and messaging > w > We are not afraid of buying if that's what it takes. But I'm way off when it > comes to Windows applications. > > I have looked at the spec of Outlook 2010, but I haven't bought yet because I > don't know how accessible or otherwise it is. I have tried Thunderbird from > Mozilla, but to be totally honest, when I tied it I wasn't all that taken > with the interface. It could be Window-Eyes; but I didn't find Thunderbird > particularly nice to use. > > I'm not averse t the concept of ditching Window-Eyes completely, and > switching to either NVDA or Thunder, both of which are distributed as part of > the Acapela InfoVox InKey USB which we now have in our collection of > accessibility tools. > > Newsgroups are something which doesn't really interest me and Facebook isn't > my kind of thing either judging by what I've heard of it. Twitter is > becoming quite boring to be honest. So, much as I dislike Outlook Expres and > Windows Mail, I can only see two possibilities at the moment. It would seem > to be a choice of either getting used to the interface of Thunderbird, or > else buying Outlook 2010 which would set us back 120 Pounds. Not really > something I wanted to do. > > Thoughts and opinions welcome. > > Gordon > > > > ======================================= > > The Techno-Chat E-Mail forum is guaranteed malware, spyware, Trojan, virus > and worm-free > > To modify your subscription options, please visit for forum's dedicated web > pages located at > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/techno-chat > > You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Techno-Chat group at > either of the following websites: > > http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/techno-chat/index.html > > Or: > <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]> > you may also subscribe to this list via RSS. 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