I've noticed actually that WE now usually just says "Edit" when you're on a web 
form with edit boxes. This is dreadful I reckon and had I not had sight it ould 
have taken a lot longer,

Lynne

On 30 Dec 2011, at 17:33, Dane Trethowan wrote:

I'm far from an experienced JFW user but the thing which really impressed me 
when I used it was how seamlessly Internet Explorer ran.

For example there was nont much of the "loading page" stuff you got with WE and 
pages were displayed fairly quickly.

Then when it came to form filling JFW would allow one to fill in the edit boxes 
when one came to them without having to issue any extra commands, this is what 
users want surely! being able to browse a page and fill in forms where 
appropriate with a minimum of fuss and certainly JFW gave me that.

I'm told that - when using Thunderbird with JFW - some customisation of the 
email client is recommended to use JFW at its optimum with the software? Well 
I'm not sure what those customisations are and I'll attempt to find out but 
everything seemed to work here right out of the box without any hitches which 
is more than I can say for WE at the present.



Sent from my iPad

On 31/12/2011, at 4:25 AM, "David Griffith" <[email protected]> wrote:

> I am sure that if you have been comfortable using NVDA JFW will feel
> comfortable as far as I can see the keys are about 95% identical. 
> Like NVDA insert or if you are laptop layout caps lock  plus 1 will toggle
> keyboard help on and off.
> The main difference is in screen review. Jaws uses something called the Jaws
> cursor which is the equivalent I think of what is described as the Mouse
> cursor in Windows Eyes.
> 
> Below is a short summary of the Jaws cursor from memory.
> 
> To turn Jaws Cursor on  press  num pad minus or caps lock plus P in laptop
> layout.
> To turn normal PC cursor back on press num pad plus  or  caps lock plus semi
> colon in ;laptop layout.
> 
> You can restrict the Jaws cursor to various window settings   such as focus
> window current window real window or unrestricted. I normally maximize
> windows and use unrestricted if I am using the Jaws cursor .  You can toggle
> these restriction settings by pressing jaws key plus R to cycle through the
> available options.
> The other access feature of Jaws is the virtual window. This converts all
> the text on the screen into a virtual window. I believe this has been
> enhanced in Jaws 13. basically you press Jaws key plus alt plus W  to create
> this virtual window. You can select and copy all the produced text onto the
> clipboard. This is useful if you want to get access to text which is not
> normally spellable or editable with Jaws. You can also use it on a directory
> to get all the available filenames for example.  Voiceover actually does a
> much better job of this kind of thing actually  but I find this jaws feature
> useful in Windows .
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mrs. Lynnette
> Annabel Smith
> Sent: 30 December 2011 13:13
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> Subject: JFW
> 
> Hello everybody
> 
> OK, Gordon and I, not just myself, are about to try JFW. Given that we're
> totally new to the product, is there anything specific we should know? How,
> for instance, do we browse the screen? What about Gordon's Blue Tooth
> Humanware Brailliant 40 Braille display; will it work?
> 
> Lynne
> 
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